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Sure, eating flour mixed with water is cheaper than vegetables. But I don't think people do that. Instead people wrongly think fast food is cheaper than home c

Sure, eating flour mixed with water is cheaper than vegetables. But I don't think people do that. Instead people wrongly think fast food is cheaper than home cooked food. Not sure your point of "no money for good food" Source- calories and protein and vitamins per dollar Edit- fast food is not necessarily faster. Carrots and protein shakes are faster than waiting in line for example.

anonuser123456 7y ago
>Instead people wrongly think fast food is cheaper than home cooked food. Fast food is cheaper than home cooked food when you factor in time & mental effort. Cooking at home requires skills that many people do not have.
- ackshually 7y ago
  This this this. It's all well and good cooking and prepping etc when you're in a comfortable house and have stocked kitchen space to yourself at home, but when you realise that a lot of people eating out every day don't have access to space in a kitchen that isn't busy with the four other people they live with, that don't get home until 7pm at night and have to leave at 7am in the morning to get to work etc, and you realise that unless cooking is your hobby in those situations you wouldn't have time to decompress after work and make a nutritious meal and also prep lunch for the following day etc. Yes weekend meal prep is a thing too - but freezer space is at a premium in shared households and there's always the threat of a roommate or family member taking the food for themselves.
  - abledon 7y ago
    seems like people need to enter a 'team' mindset, where you share cooking duties with roommates etc.. trying to help each other pull themselves out of poverty. ofc this is 0.1% likely to happen, but when it does, i think it would work.
    - SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
      When you're in constant survival mode, it's hard to think like that. How can you spare the time helping someone else when you're already drowning?
      - InitialLastName 7y ago
        The difficult thing is that we've gone a long way towards eliminating the tight-knit communities from our society. It's a lot easier to coordinate resource and effort sharing with people you've known your entire life (family, family-ish, and church cohorts). Even just the church tradition of organizing bringing food to somebody in the community who is sick, indisposed or undergoing a stressful time in their lives (think: just had a kid) is falling by the wayside.
    - AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
      ofc this is 0.1% likely to happen I think you severely underestimate the power of teamwork. That's how our family has survived through 90s. This grandma will watch after everyone's kids. That only guy who has a car will buy cheap potatoes in bulk for everyone.
  - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
    You're making the assumption that poor people expect upper middle class standards of inconvenience (well, lack thereof) in their daily lives. This is not the case because if you don't know what you're missing it's hard to miss it. If the kitchen is busy you wait or work around people. "Time to decompress" isn't even on most people's radar as a thing they want to do. When you have to eat dinner make lunch and go to sleep to get to work the next day that takes priority. It's not "woe is me I can't sit on my butt for half an hour and watch Jeopardy tonight," it's just life.
- AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
  Sorry, this is beyond my understanding. Morning porridge: pour water into oats. Microwave for 2 minutes. Dinner: pour water into rice. Boil for 10 minutes. Add a rotisserie chicken from the grocery store. My 7yo does it. Do you seriously think there's a non-disabled adult incapable of pouring water in a bowl?
  - reroute1 7y ago
    Great now you're able to eat one crappy meal forever. Maybe people want variety and taste and don't have time to invest in that?? Maybe people live in an area not near a good grocery store, which is VERY common in lower income areas... think harder if you can't envision this being more complicated than it seems
  - anonuser123456 7y ago
    >Do you seriously think there's a non-disabled adult incapable of pouring water in a bowl? I seriously think there are non-disabled adults that would never think to pour water into a bowl for oatmeal. That's the crux of my argument. The meta cognitive step to "change the status quo" appears to be beyond the capability of most people.
  - watwut 7y ago
    Buying ready to eat chicken every day and buying fast food is different how?
  - SolaceQuantum 7y ago
    Of course rotisserie chicken is just another form of fast food. You're proving the point!
    - AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
      It's as "fast" as bread and instant coffee. At least it's cheap, reasonably healthy and tasty.
      - SolaceQuantum 7y ago
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- swiley 7y ago
  I'm usually sympathetic to this but dumping ramen into a coffee pot doesn't require skills. Frying an egg does but not much, and you could just microwave them instead. etc.
coldtea 7y ago
>Sure, eating flour mixed with water is cheaper than vegetables. But I don't think people do that. You'd be surprised. Ever heard e.g. of "syrup sandwiches"? Or dozens of other ways poor people get by with no money for food? It's not just "fast food". And even that, it's not because they "wrongly think fast food is cheaper than home cooked food" -- it's because fast food is less stressful to make when you have to work like crazy, in excruciating jobs to make ends meets, and requires less time...
- non-entity 7y ago
  I remember my stepmother recalling her late teenage years / early adulthood poverty. She said she used to get a bunch of ketchup packets from a McDonalds to use a a very bad "tomato soup" base
bryanrasmussen 7y ago
I'm pretty sure that if someone thinks fast food is "cheaper" they are working off the "time is money" assumption.
Mirioron 7y ago
Protein per dollar is actually quite expensive compared to carbs and fat. On the other hand, protein in fast food is even more expensive.

anonuser123456 7y ago

>Instead people wrongly think fast food is cheaper than home cooked food. Fast food is cheaper than home cooked food when you factor in time & mental effort. Cooking at home requires skills that many people do not have.

ackshually 7y ago
This this this. It's all well and good cooking and prepping etc when you're in a comfortable house and have stocked kitchen space to yourself at home, but when you realise that a lot of people eating out every day don't have access to space in a kitchen that isn't busy with the four other people they live with, that don't get home until 7pm at night and have to leave at 7am in the morning to get to work etc, and you realise that unless cooking is your hobby in those situations you wouldn't have time to decompress after work and make a nutritious meal and also prep lunch for the following day etc. Yes weekend meal prep is a thing too - but freezer space is at a premium in shared households and there's always the threat of a roommate or family member taking the food for themselves.
- abledon 7y ago
  seems like people need to enter a 'team' mindset, where you share cooking duties with roommates etc.. trying to help each other pull themselves out of poverty. ofc this is 0.1% likely to happen, but when it does, i think it would work.
  - SketchySeaBeast 7y ago
    When you're in constant survival mode, it's hard to think like that. How can you spare the time helping someone else when you're already drowning?
    - InitialLastName 7y ago
      The difficult thing is that we've gone a long way towards eliminating the tight-knit communities from our society. It's a lot easier to coordinate resource and effort sharing with people you've known your entire life (family, family-ish, and church cohorts). Even just the church tradition of organizing bringing food to somebody in the community who is sick, indisposed or undergoing a stressful time in their lives (think: just had a kid) is falling by the wayside.
  - AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
    ofc this is 0.1% likely to happen I think you severely underestimate the power of teamwork. That's how our family has survived through 90s. This grandma will watch after everyone's kids. That only guy who has a car will buy cheap potatoes in bulk for everyone.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago
  You're making the assumption that poor people expect upper middle class standards of inconvenience (well, lack thereof) in their daily lives. This is not the case because if you don't know what you're missing it's hard to miss it. If the kitchen is busy you wait or work around people. "Time to decompress" isn't even on most people's radar as a thing they want to do. When you have to eat dinner make lunch and go to sleep to get to work the next day that takes priority. It's not "woe is me I can't sit on my butt for half an hour and watch Jeopardy tonight," it's just life.
AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
Sorry, this is beyond my understanding. Morning porridge: pour water into oats. Microwave for 2 minutes. Dinner: pour water into rice. Boil for 10 minutes. Add a rotisserie chicken from the grocery store. My 7yo does it. Do you seriously think there's a non-disabled adult incapable of pouring water in a bowl?
- reroute1 7y ago
  Great now you're able to eat one crappy meal forever. Maybe people want variety and taste and don't have time to invest in that?? Maybe people live in an area not near a good grocery store, which is VERY common in lower income areas... think harder if you can't envision this being more complicated than it seems
- anonuser123456 7y ago
  >Do you seriously think there's a non-disabled adult incapable of pouring water in a bowl? I seriously think there are non-disabled adults that would never think to pour water into a bowl for oatmeal. That's the crux of my argument. The meta cognitive step to "change the status quo" appears to be beyond the capability of most people.
- watwut 7y ago
  Buying ready to eat chicken every day and buying fast food is different how?
- SolaceQuantum 7y ago
  Of course rotisserie chicken is just another form of fast food. You're proving the point!
  - AlexTWithBeard 7y ago
    It's as "fast" as bread and instant coffee. At least it's cheap, reasonably healthy and tasty.
    - SolaceQuantum 7y ago
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swiley 7y ago
I'm usually sympathetic to this but dumping ramen into a coffee pot doesn't require skills. Frying an egg does but not much, and you could just microwave them instead. etc.

coldtea 7y ago

>Sure, eating flour mixed with water is cheaper than vegetables. But I don't think people do that. You'd be surprised. Ever heard e.g. of "syrup sandwiches"? Or dozens of other ways poor people get by with no money for food? It's not just "fast food". And even that, it's not because they "wrongly think fast food is cheaper than home cooked food" -- it's because fast food is less stressful to make when you have to work like crazy, in excruciating jobs to make ends meets, and requires less time...

non-entity 7y ago
I remember my stepmother recalling her late teenage years / early adulthood poverty. She said she used to get a bunch of ketchup packets from a McDonalds to use a a very bad "tomato soup" base

bryanrasmussen 7y ago

I'm pretty sure that if someone thinks fast food is "cheaper" they are working off the "time is money" assumption.

Mirioron 7y ago

Protein per dollar is actually quite expensive compared to carbs and fat. On the other hand, protein in fast food is even more expensive.