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It just needs basic engineering. If fucking electric scooters have geofenced speed limits (and drones much longer even) there is zero excuse for cars exceeding

It just needs basic engineering. If fucking electric scooters have geofenced speed limits (and drones much longer even) there is zero excuse for cars exceeding speed limits.

codazoda 7y ago
Fun fact, Utah has Prima Facia speed limits. This means it's legal to exceed the posted limit when it's safe to do so. You'll get a ticket anyway, but you can make the argument. If all cars went the speed limit then cities, towns, and counties would lose speeding ticket revenue. I suspect the money would cause attempts to force safe speeds to fail. On the flip side there's a certain amount of freedom inherent in being allowed to speed. So, it seems like there might not be enough support, on any side, to make this feasible. Around here, going the speed limit typically means going slower than the rest of traffic. If all of our cars forced us not to speed, I wonder if speed limits would naturally increase to safer limits. I also wonder how much of what I just said is a result of Prima Facia speed limits here.
- lutorm 7y ago
  CA too. I'm not sure how likely it is to get you out of a ticket though.
- javagram 7y ago
  Speed limits in cities and towns where pedestrians are walking are already typically the highest safe speed limit, or even higher. The odds of a car-pedestrian collision resulting in a fatality increase dramatically in the gradient from 20 to 40 mph, and people love to speed in cities and towns where the limits are usually 25 or 30 mph. Limited-access highway speed limits are a different story of course and a lot of highways still have old 55 or 65 mph speed limits that are set for fuel efficiency due to the 1970s oil crisis, not necessarily the maximum safe speed.
ggreer 7y ago
Why would anyone buy a scooter that has a geofenced governor? Scooter rental companies might do that, but then they'll have more competition from modes of transportation that don't have such restrictions (such as rental bicycles). I couldn't see lots of people buying a car with a built in governor, especially since speed limits are a joke in many places in the US. Also, such a device would be a hazard in a life threatening situation (such as escaping a disaster or driving a family member to the hospital).
CapricornNoble 7y ago
>>>If fucking electric scooters have geofenced speed limits (and drones much longer even) there is zero excuse for cars exceeding speed limits. You'll probably see a spike in aftermarket ECU sales. Here's what I'm rocking in my Supra, for example: https://www.ecumaster.com/products/emu-black/ https://www.ecumaster.com/products/emu-black/ But I'm sure most normie commuter types aren't willing to drop $1000 + labor just so they can speed.
- big_chungus 7y ago
  > But I'm sure most normie commuter types aren't willing to drop $1000 + labor just so they can speed. Not sure about demand at that price, but I'd guess most people would pay not to have a "nanny car". I could also see significant economies of scale for what is currently a very niche product.
  - mrguyorama 7y ago
    Nevermind that many vehicles are way easier to ECU program than actually buying a new $1000 unit. Some can simply use a $100 programmer that comes with built in programs for multiple cars!

It just needs basic engineering. If fucking electric scooters have geofenced speed limits (and drones much longer even) there is zero excuse for cars exceeding speed limits.

codazoda 7y ago

Fun fact, Utah has Prima Facia speed limits. This means it's legal to exceed the posted limit when it's safe to do so. You'll get a ticket anyway, but you can make the argument. If all cars went the speed limit then cities, towns, and counties would lose speeding ticket revenue. I suspect the money would cause attempts to force safe speeds to fail. On the flip side there's a certain amount of freedom inherent in being allowed to speed. So, it seems like there might not be enough support, on any side, to make this feasible. Around here, going the speed limit typically means going slower than the rest of traffic. If all of our cars forced us not to speed, I wonder if speed limits would naturally increase to safer limits. I also wonder how much of what I just said is a result of Prima Facia speed limits here.

lutorm 7y ago
CA too. I'm not sure how likely it is to get you out of a ticket though.
javagram 7y ago
Speed limits in cities and towns where pedestrians are walking are already typically the highest safe speed limit, or even higher. The odds of a car-pedestrian collision resulting in a fatality increase dramatically in the gradient from 20 to 40 mph, and people love to speed in cities and towns where the limits are usually 25 or 30 mph. Limited-access highway speed limits are a different story of course and a lot of highways still have old 55 or 65 mph speed limits that are set for fuel efficiency due to the 1970s oil crisis, not necessarily the maximum safe speed.

ggreer 7y ago

Why would anyone buy a scooter that has a geofenced governor? Scooter rental companies might do that, but then they'll have more competition from modes of transportation that don't have such restrictions (such as rental bicycles). I couldn't see lots of people buying a car with a built in governor, especially since speed limits are a joke in many places in the US. Also, such a device would be a hazard in a life threatening situation (such as escaping a disaster or driving a family member to the hospital).

CapricornNoble 7y ago

>>>If fucking electric scooters have geofenced speed limits (and drones much longer even) there is zero excuse for cars exceeding speed limits. You'll probably see a spike in aftermarket ECU sales. Here's what I'm rocking in my Supra, for example: https://www.ecumaster.com/products/emu-black/ https://www.ecumaster.com/products/emu-black/ But I'm sure most normie commuter types aren't willing to drop $1000 + labor just so they can speed.

big_chungus 7y ago
> But I'm sure most normie commuter types aren't willing to drop $1000 + labor just so they can speed. Not sure about demand at that price, but I'd guess most people would pay not to have a "nanny car". I could also see significant economies of scale for what is currently a very niche product.
- mrguyorama 7y ago
  Nevermind that many vehicles are way easier to ECU program than actually buying a new $1000 unit. Some can simply use a $100 programmer that comes with built in programs for multiple cars!