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Those Soviet Khrushchyovkas are the most depressing, abysmal buildings built in the history of mankind and I for one cannot wait until the day they demolish the

by zarro 7y ago

Those Soviet Khrushchyovkas are the most depressing, abysmal buildings built in the history of mankind and I for one cannot wait until the day they demolish the last one of those despicable creations.

vbezhenar 7y ago
For me they are beatiful. Because they allowed a lot of people to have their own house. It's incredible achievement. They should be replaced by better houses with time, of course.
- disordinary 7y ago
  That's a good point, after WW2 the Soviet Union had the double problem of a rapidly urbanising population and having to rebuild all the destruction. They needed a quick solution and what they chose worked.
  - ineedasername 7y ago
    It came with a high cost. Roughly 20 million died under forced labor camps, collectivization efforts and resulting famines, gulags, and resettlements.
    - disordinary 7y ago
      I don't doubt it. It was a rapid modernisation and raising of living standards.
      - ineedasername 7y ago
        Are you saying it was necessary or justified? It sounds like your meaning is that such mass murder, combined with murder via incompetence, is a necessary part of modernization.
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        disordinary 7y ago
        No, I didn't say that. I meant there was a lot of work pushed on the people by a ruthless government.
      - zarro 7y ago
        Mass murder DUE to incompetence - trying to justify the output is like putting makeup on a pig. Its thinking like this that led to the US golden age to be referred to as "Gilded Age" because it was felt that incompetence was marginalized and considered as viable to instead marginalize competence.
markvdb 7y ago
I'm from western Europe, but I've lived in one. Some of them are quite comfortable really and well-built. The layout of mine was quite smart. Lots of sunlight inside, lots of green around it. City centre, close to everything. Cheap. What's not to like?
disordinary 7y ago
I've stayed in them several times, they're great. They're incredibly warm in winter and central heated, they're in park like areas with playgrounds and schools in between them. For the climate of Russia apartments are good solutions, and having them set in clusters with excellent public transport links and their own set of services it's actually superior to a lot of western suburbs where kids can no longer walk to school because of the distances and dangers and have no playgrounds or limited family facilities.
jpindar 7y ago
You might like https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/ But whenever a Soviet style building is posted there, someone who lived in that type of building posts that it wasn't so bad.
- knolax 7y ago
  That subreddit is one of the most vile places on Reddit. All they do is post pictures of other people's homes and mock both the home and the people living them. If you're some antisocial type who can't live in a city nobody's stoping you from living in the suburbs.
Mirioron 7y ago
The main problem with these apartment buildings is a lack of maintenance on the outside. If these buildings were painted and maintained properly then they would look just fine from the outside. The inside is what you make of it anyway. I like them because they're cheap (and am living in one).
hamilyon2 7y ago
They are not terrible, not great either.

by zarro 7y ago

vbezhenar 7y ago

For me they are beatiful. Because they allowed a lot of people to have their own house. It's incredible achievement. They should be replaced by better houses with time, of course.

disordinary 7y ago
That's a good point, after WW2 the Soviet Union had the double problem of a rapidly urbanising population and having to rebuild all the destruction. They needed a quick solution and what they chose worked.
- ineedasername 7y ago
  It came with a high cost. Roughly 20 million died under forced labor camps, collectivization efforts and resulting famines, gulags, and resettlements.
  - disordinary 7y ago
    I don't doubt it. It was a rapid modernisation and raising of living standards.
    - ineedasername 7y ago
      Are you saying it was necessary or justified? It sounds like your meaning is that such mass murder, combined with murder via incompetence, is a necessary part of modernization.
      - deleted 7y ago
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      - disordinary 7y ago
        No, I didn't say that. I meant there was a lot of work pushed on the people by a ruthless government.
    - zarro 7y ago
      Mass murder DUE to incompetence - trying to justify the output is like putting makeup on a pig. Its thinking like this that led to the US golden age to be referred to as "Gilded Age" because it was felt that incompetence was marginalized and considered as viable to instead marginalize competence.

markvdb 7y ago

I'm from western Europe, but I've lived in one. Some of them are quite comfortable really and well-built. The layout of mine was quite smart. Lots of sunlight inside, lots of green around it. City centre, close to everything. Cheap. What's not to like?

disordinary 7y ago

I've stayed in them several times, they're great. They're incredibly warm in winter and central heated, they're in park like areas with playgrounds and schools in between them. For the climate of Russia apartments are good solutions, and having them set in clusters with excellent public transport links and their own set of services it's actually superior to a lot of western suburbs where kids can no longer walk to school because of the distances and dangers and have no playgrounds or limited family facilities.

jpindar 7y ago

You might like https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UrbanHell/ But whenever a Soviet style building is posted there, someone who lived in that type of building posts that it wasn't so bad.

knolax 7y ago
That subreddit is one of the most vile places on Reddit. All they do is post pictures of other people's homes and mock both the home and the people living them. If you're some antisocial type who can't live in a city nobody's stoping you from living in the suburbs.

Mirioron 7y ago

The main problem with these apartment buildings is a lack of maintenance on the outside. If these buildings were painted and maintained properly then they would look just fine from the outside. The inside is what you make of it anyway. I like them because they're cheap (and am living in one).

hamilyon2 7y ago

They are not terrible, not great either.