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The problem old people have with apartments is that they attract perceived ne'er-do-wells with little financial resources. Harold the Retiree does not want to

The problem old people have with apartments is that they attract perceived ne'er-do-wells with little financial resources. Harold the Retiree does not want to hear your Subaru with the fart cannon on the back going up and down the road while he's trying to watch the sun set on his back porch, doesn't want your drug dealer causing trouble on his block, and certainly doesn't care to see your piercings and tattoos in the grocery store.

non-entity 7y ago
> doesn't care to see your piercings and tattoos in the grocery store. Harold can fuck right off then because that's not his business. The other two, could potentially be an issue, however, but in my experience, most apartments like that are not filled with retirees, but working class individuals and to an extent working class families.
- davidw 7y ago
  I spent a lot of time in Italy, and there, rather than SFH for 'good' people here, and rent-only apartments for 'bad' people there, you have a lot more 4/6/8/10 unit buildings where you own the single unit and can either live in it or rent it out. So things are a lot more mixed. I think this leads to more integration and better outcomes.
  - war1025 7y ago
    The house I live in currently is exactly this. It's a block of townhouses (20ish total), grouped in sets of 4, where each person owns their individual unit. We have a pretty diverse mix of people, and I quite like it.
- chongli 7y ago
  Harold has freedom of movement, just as you and I do. If Harold can afford to live in a neighbourhood where tattoos and piercings guy can’t, who are we to stop him? The real problem with gentrification is the unearned increase in property values that accrue to owners and not renters. This could be solved with Georgist land value taxes [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax
- CapricornNoble 7y ago
  >>>> doesn't care to see your piercings and tattoos in the grocery store. >>Harold can fuck right off then because that's not his business. Don't come to Japan then. [1][2] Like it or not, some cultures (including the older generation of Americans) hold certain social mores that include expectations of public appearance and decorum. [1]https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/12/19/national/stigma-legal-battles-show-japan-still-tattoo-complex-even-olympics-loom/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/12/19/national/stigma... [2]https://observers.france24.com/en/20170504-japanese-authorities-are-waging-war-against-tattoos https://observers.france24.com/en/20170504-japanese-authorit...
JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago
Ironically for Harold the Retiree, High income renters are the fastest growing segment within the rental population: https://www.apartmentlist.com/rentonomics/rich-and-renting-understanding-the-surge-of-high-earning-renters/ https://www.apartmentlist.com/rentonomics/rich-and-renting-u...

non-entity 7y ago

> doesn't care to see your piercings and tattoos in the grocery store. Harold can fuck right off then because that's not his business. The other two, could potentially be an issue, however, but in my experience, most apartments like that are not filled with retirees, but working class individuals and to an extent working class families.

davidw 7y ago
I spent a lot of time in Italy, and there, rather than SFH for 'good' people here, and rent-only apartments for 'bad' people there, you have a lot more 4/6/8/10 unit buildings where you own the single unit and can either live in it or rent it out. So things are a lot more mixed. I think this leads to more integration and better outcomes.
- war1025 7y ago
  The house I live in currently is exactly this. It's a block of townhouses (20ish total), grouped in sets of 4, where each person owns their individual unit. We have a pretty diverse mix of people, and I quite like it.
chongli 7y ago
Harold has freedom of movement, just as you and I do. If Harold can afford to live in a neighbourhood where tattoos and piercings guy can’t, who are we to stop him? The real problem with gentrification is the unearned increase in property values that accrue to owners and not renters. This could be solved with Georgist land value taxes [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_value_tax
CapricornNoble 7y ago
>>>> doesn't care to see your piercings and tattoos in the grocery store. >>Harold can fuck right off then because that's not his business. Don't come to Japan then. [1][2] Like it or not, some cultures (including the older generation of Americans) hold certain social mores that include expectations of public appearance and decorum. [1]https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/12/19/national/stigma-legal-battles-show-japan-still-tattoo-complex-even-olympics-loom/ https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2018/12/19/national/stigma... [2]https://observers.france24.com/en/20170504-japanese-authorities-are-waging-war-against-tattoos https://observers.france24.com/en/20170504-japanese-authorit...

JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago

Ironically for Harold the Retiree, High income renters are the fastest growing segment within the rental population: https://www.apartmentlist.com/rentonomics/rich-and-renting-understanding-the-surge-of-high-earning-renters/ https://www.apartmentlist.com/rentonomics/rich-and-renting-u...