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> There's increased risk of inbreeding between these 20 people who (unknowingly to one another) share significant genetic material. Which is why this whole thi
by apta 7y ago
> There's increased risk of inbreeding between these 20 people who (unknowingly to one another) share significant genetic material.
Which is why this whole thing is immoral (not to mention dangerous) to begin with. How can you not assign children to both the (real/biological) father and mother to keep track of these things?
- buboard 7y agobecause genetic testing will also exist in the future
- apta 7y agoIt's not a solution. Not everyone is going to get tested before they get married. It's interesting how far left/liberal culture today mocks communities that have cousin marriages as "inbred" and "backward", yet they engage in severe and reckless practices that we have no idea how they're going to pan out.
- buboard 7y agoI 'm pretty sure they will / especially if they don't know their biological father.
- aidenn0 7y ago1. Not everybody knows that they don't know their biological father. 2. My wife is adopted, has had some contact with her biological mother, but zero reliable information on her biological father (her bio mom lies about pretty much everything). She has shown no interest in the various genetic tests out there, even though she has to keep on writing on those health forms at her doctor "unknown" for all the "Does X run in your family" questions.
- buboard 7y agounderstand. i would assume though that people who are missing info about one of their parents are more likely to use those services
- taco_emoji 7y agoWhat does "liberal culture" have to do with sperm donation?
- apta 7y agoConservative cultures don't allow this practice, they generally still strongly hold to the family as the building unit of society, whereas this practice continues to dismantle it. We're ending up in a society where people don't know who their offspring are, and where children don't know who their real parents are. This is untrodden ground, and may very well have extremely serious consequences.
- buboard 7y agoi really don't see why. back then there was no IVF and donor sperm would be a way for good old fashioned conservative couples who cant conceive to have the children they always wanted
- apta 7y agoA conservative couple won't use a sperm donor. The woman will literally be carrying another man's child, not her husband's.
- buboard 7y agoWhat makes you say so? They wouldn't adopt a kid too? I don't think it's a "left" issue at all for couples. For single mothers, maybe
- apta 7y agoAdoption is different if done properly. The adopted child should not in anyway be implied or declared to be of the same bloodline as the adopting parents, otherwise we'll end up with the same issue seen here. It's also important that the child know that they're adopted from early on, and not hide that fact. Whereas artificial insemination is literally having the woman carry another man's child, it goes against conservative values (would they let another man sleep with the woman to impregnate her if there weren't artificial insemination?)
- hackinthebochs 7y agoThe danger of inbreeding is overblown. It generally takes multiple generations of repeated inbreeding for genetic anomalies to develop.
- apta 7y agoIt doesn't change the argument. The fact that the father does not know who his offspring are (and the other way around) is quite bizarre to say the least.
- hackinthebochs 7y agoThe probability of harm to potential offspring does in fact change the moral argument (which seems to be what you were going for).
- apta 7y agoHypothetically, even if it didn't harm the offspring, it must be kept track of who are their real parents.
- icebraining 7y agoBizarre is sending messages across hundreds of miles using electrified sand. Men impregnating women and moving on is as old as large scale war, at least.
- apta 7y agoWe're not in a large scale war. Today, this behavior is seen as desirable, without realizing what the effects are. It's selfish behavior on both the donor and the recipient, and who ends up paying for it are the offspring and most likely society as well.
- icebraining 7y ago> We're not in a large scale war. No, but we're in a large society where men can and do have sex with women (consensually or not) once and leave them pregnant. I'm not making a moral judgement, I'm saying that mostly anonymous sperm donations have been happening long before IVF and sperm banks were a thing, so the results aren't as unpredictable as you paint them.