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I agree with your "Where is Europe" sentiment, but lists like this aren't super helpful. The fact that western site somehow doesn't have a single Asian city, d
by moate 7y ago
I agree with your "Where is Europe" sentiment, but lists like this aren't super helpful.
The fact that western site somehow doesn't have a single Asian city, despite veganism tracing it's roots to India, in their top 10 feels less like an objective analysis and more of a list of places the editors have visited.
- keiferski 7y agoI don’t think it’s fair to expect an English-language, western-focused website to cover India. I doubt the average Westerner could name more than a city or two in India to begin with. Even then, I am skeptical as to the claim that contemporary western veganism, as a cultural phenomenon, is traceable to India. I would attribute it more to developments in western ethics and growing awareness of the realities of the meat production economy, combined with left-wing culture and politics in general.
- moate 7y agoLet's ignore India specifically, and call out "the whole rest of the world that isn't the US, Western Europe, and Israel". Why isn't it fair? You're saying "the best vegan cities in the world" and ignoring the vast majority of the world. Should I take this list as the definitive list of the objectively best vegan cities, or some westerner's take the subject? If you don't want to be judged on the world stage, don't bring the world into it. Say "the best vegan cities we've been to" or "the best vegan cities in europe/the US". They wrote a list, I'm critical of their list and process. Here's a better list IMO, if you're trying to talk about the world. https://theveganword.com/vegan-friendly-cities-2018/ https://theveganword.com/vegan-friendly-cities-2018/ Also, you can talk about "contemporary western veganism" but that's very different from "veganism" in general. You're moving the goalposts sir.
- keiferski 7y agoI only linked to the site as a response to the above poster, who was comparing Europe to America. If you have an issue with the title of the post I linked to, take it up with the author. Otherwise, this is a pointless pedantic argument that has nothing to do with the original reason I linked to the article.
- moate 7y agoLet's just agree to disagree on what constitutes good supporting evidence and move on.