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Agreed. The vegetarian things I eat, taste nice, and just happen to be vegetarian, they're not meat replaced with Quorn. Additionally, one thing I don't unders

Agreed. The vegetarian things I eat, taste nice, and just happen to be vegetarian, they're not meat replaced with Quorn. Additionally, one thing I don't understand, up until recently animal rights seems to have been the main driver behind vegetarianism. If you're morally against eating pig, why would you want to eat something that pretends to be pig?

bootlooped 7y ago
Because it tastes good. It's not a contradiction to enjoy the taste of an animal, while also believing that the harvesting of that animal is unethical.
- benj111 7y ago
  As a non vegetarian, there's only one meat I don't eat for moral reasons, and I wouldn't want to eat anything that pretends to be that meat, regardless of whether I like the taste. Quorn cubes, or Quorn mince I can understand, they're generic. Vegetarian bacon is supposed to be a specific part of a specific animal. And I've never heard anyone argue, vegetarian or otherwise, that vegetarian bacon tastes anything like actual bacon anyway.
  - Spivak 7y ago
    No different than the reason people eat turkey bacon. To have a different option that's the right "shape". Bacon is basically synonymous with crispy rectangle and sometimes dammit I want salty crispy rectangles on my burger.
    - benj111 7y ago
      Perhaps? I (personally) would disagree. To me bacon isnt generic, its as specific as chicken leg. I can see how that would account for the discrepancy though.
lukeschlather 7y ago
If you're morally against killing people, why would you want to play a game about killing people?
- benj111 7y ago
  One other thing I've never quite understood is that a child can watch James Bond shoot a few hundred people and that's fine, it is significantly less fine for that child to watch a film of 2 people having sex, even though sex is a normal heathy part of life. In the UK a 16 year old can legally have sex, but cant watch it?! Tbh I'm not sure, I get turned off by things like Saw, because I don't really think theres the need to go that far, but on the other hand, is Mario jumping on a turtle animal cruelty? I suppose the line is realism? Mario isnt attempting to be real? Quorn mince isnt attempting to be real, vegetarian bacon is.
  - lukeschlather 7y ago
    I mean for me it's just a question of nutrition. Especially if I'm doing a lot of activity, vegetarian food that "pretends to be meat" gives me a lot more protein with less fiber and carbs which translates into a better balance for exercise.
    - benj111 7y ago
      It doesn't sound like you're a vegetarian for an animal welfare reason though? If you've stopped eating meat for environmental/health reasons then there isn't really the contradiction. 'Salty Crispy protein bits' gets us the same thing as vegetarian bacon, without seemingly being morally objectionable to a demographic you're targeting.
      - lukeschlather 7y ago
        I'm a vegetarian for a variety of reasons, but I don't understand why anyone would have a moral problem with making facsimiles of dead animals. (It's actually imprisoning and killing living creatures that I think most people have a moral problem with.)

bootlooped 7y ago

Because it tastes good. It's not a contradiction to enjoy the taste of an animal, while also believing that the harvesting of that animal is unethical.

benj111 7y ago
As a non vegetarian, there's only one meat I don't eat for moral reasons, and I wouldn't want to eat anything that pretends to be that meat, regardless of whether I like the taste. Quorn cubes, or Quorn mince I can understand, they're generic. Vegetarian bacon is supposed to be a specific part of a specific animal. And I've never heard anyone argue, vegetarian or otherwise, that vegetarian bacon tastes anything like actual bacon anyway.
- Spivak 7y ago
  No different than the reason people eat turkey bacon. To have a different option that's the right "shape". Bacon is basically synonymous with crispy rectangle and sometimes dammit I want salty crispy rectangles on my burger.
  - benj111 7y ago
    Perhaps? I (personally) would disagree. To me bacon isnt generic, its as specific as chicken leg. I can see how that would account for the discrepancy though.

lukeschlather 7y ago

If you're morally against killing people, why would you want to play a game about killing people?

benj111 7y ago
One other thing I've never quite understood is that a child can watch James Bond shoot a few hundred people and that's fine, it is significantly less fine for that child to watch a film of 2 people having sex, even though sex is a normal heathy part of life. In the UK a 16 year old can legally have sex, but cant watch it?! Tbh I'm not sure, I get turned off by things like Saw, because I don't really think theres the need to go that far, but on the other hand, is Mario jumping on a turtle animal cruelty? I suppose the line is realism? Mario isnt attempting to be real? Quorn mince isnt attempting to be real, vegetarian bacon is.
- lukeschlather 7y ago
  I mean for me it's just a question of nutrition. Especially if I'm doing a lot of activity, vegetarian food that "pretends to be meat" gives me a lot more protein with less fiber and carbs which translates into a better balance for exercise.
  - benj111 7y ago
    It doesn't sound like you're a vegetarian for an animal welfare reason though? If you've stopped eating meat for environmental/health reasons then there isn't really the contradiction. 'Salty Crispy protein bits' gets us the same thing as vegetarian bacon, without seemingly being morally objectionable to a demographic you're targeting.
    - lukeschlather 7y ago
      I'm a vegetarian for a variety of reasons, but I don't understand why anyone would have a moral problem with making facsimiles of dead animals. (It's actually imprisoning and killing living creatures that I think most people have a moral problem with.)