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i really think the way to getting millions to change their meat eating ways is one animal at a time. Don't tell a typical meat eater give up all meat. Tell them

i really think the way to getting millions to change their meat eating ways is one animal at a time. Don't tell a typical meat eater give up all meat. Tell them give up cows only. Then pigs. Then maybe stop there for a while. Exist on chicken and seafood and that would change the world. Just place cows and pigs in same category as dogs and cats and all of a sudden, wow, huge win for everyone.

mikekij 7y ago
This extends to individual meals too. Lots of meat eaters feel some desire to be vegetarian, but have a particular dish or two they “can’t live without.” The environmental and health impacts of even avoiding meat in 50% of meals would be enormous. There’s no gold star for being a “perfect” vegetarian. Just do what you can.
- andrewfromx 7y ago
  i've been doing no cows and pigs since 2015 and the hardest part is the social aspect of going out with friends and someone announcing to the group, OH HEY THIS PERSON OVER HERE DOES NOT EAT 100% OF EVERYTHING. And all of a sudden you are the lame one that isn't "open to trying new things" or "fun and spontaneous" and will just pop anything from any dish into your mouth and say, oh wow, yum. And yet, the same people would freak out if cat or dog was on menu.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    > i've been doing no cows and pigs since 2015 and the hardest part is the social aspect of going out with friends and someone announcing to the group, OH HEY THIS PERSON OVER HERE DOES NOT EAT 100% OF EVERYTHING It sounds like you’re lacking some supportive and understanding friends :( Would they say the same if you had a food allergy?
Robotbeat 7y ago
BTW, pigs are approximately no worse than poultry (or even fresh fruit) for emissions per calorie. It's the ruminant s (like cow, sheep, goat, etc) that have methane emissions which screw things up. Source: https://i0.wp.com/shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/foodkCal1.gif?resize=540%2C405 https://i0.wp.com/shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads...

mikekij 7y ago

This extends to individual meals too. Lots of meat eaters feel some desire to be vegetarian, but have a particular dish or two they “can’t live without.” The environmental and health impacts of even avoiding meat in 50% of meals would be enormous. There’s no gold star for being a “perfect” vegetarian. Just do what you can.

andrewfromx 7y ago
i've been doing no cows and pigs since 2015 and the hardest part is the social aspect of going out with friends and someone announcing to the group, OH HEY THIS PERSON OVER HERE DOES NOT EAT 100% OF EVERYTHING. And all of a sudden you are the lame one that isn't "open to trying new things" or "fun and spontaneous" and will just pop anything from any dish into your mouth and say, oh wow, yum. And yet, the same people would freak out if cat or dog was on menu.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  > i've been doing no cows and pigs since 2015 and the hardest part is the social aspect of going out with friends and someone announcing to the group, OH HEY THIS PERSON OVER HERE DOES NOT EAT 100% OF EVERYTHING It sounds like you’re lacking some supportive and understanding friends :( Would they say the same if you had a food allergy?

Robotbeat 7y ago

BTW, pigs are approximately no worse than poultry (or even fresh fruit) for emissions per calorie. It's the ruminant s (like cow, sheep, goat, etc) that have methane emissions which screw things up. Source: https://i0.wp.com/shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/foodkCal1.gif?resize=540%2C405 https://i0.wp.com/shrinkthatfootprint.com/wp-content/uploads...