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Be careful comparing a system which can simply take the land and labor it wants to one in which people have rights.

arghwhat 7y ago
Yes, such a land compares poorly to China. /s
mikepurvis 7y ago
Land and labour get taken from plenty of Americans too— it's just usually for the benefit of wealthy private corporations rather than to advance a public good such as dignified, quality, low carbon mass transportation. https://money.cnn.com/2005/06/23/news/fortune500/retail_eminentdomain/ https://money.cnn.com/2005/06/23/news/fortune500/retail_emin... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/23/prisoner-speak-out-american-slave-labor-strike https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/23/prison...
scarejunba 7y ago
The government has had the ROW for ages on this. It isn't land acquisition. They just keep botching it (like using the wrong steel). Be careful making excuses that don't apply.
toephu2 7y ago
Not quite true, in China the government usually tries to compensate you fairly for your house and cannot "force" you to leave (although I'm sure it happens). https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/dec/01/chinese-highway-house-demolished https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/dec/01/chinese-highwa...
- bpicolo 7y ago
  > All land in China is state-owned, and residents are typically offered a fraction of their home's original value in compensation.
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  - zachguo 7y ago
    This is utterly false. They are usually compensated 3 times the market value. Simply ask common people in China, everybody wants their houses to be torn down by the government. Sometimes the government cannot afford it, that's why you may see a block of hutong or city-village in a fancy CBD.
headsupftw 7y ago
Please go to China and talk to people with no rights but lots and lots of dough because their land/houses got confiscated by the commies in order to build high rises, freeways, high-speed train tracks or whatever the Nazi government has conjured up. They are literally the envy of the young generation because they no longer have to work (that IMHO is indeed a problem). But alas they don't have rights whereas homeless people in San Francisco can defecate freely and indulge themselves in needles basking in the democratic sun. Make no mistake I'm a staunch supporter of democracy and freedom and despise the fact that China is lacking in both probably as much as you do. But please get your facts straight and refrain from using your imagination to comment on a country you most likely have never been to.

Yes, such a land compares poorly to China. /s

Land and labour get taken from plenty of Americans too— it's just usually for the benefit of wealthy private corporations rather than to advance a public good such as dignified, quality, low carbon mass transportation. https://money.cnn.com/2005/06/23/news/fortune500/retail_eminentdomain/ https://money.cnn.com/2005/06/23/news/fortune500/retail_emin... https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/23/prisoner-speak-out-american-slave-labor-strike https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/23/prison...

scarejunba 7y ago

The government has had the ROW for ages on this. It isn't land acquisition. They just keep botching it (like using the wrong steel). Be careful making excuses that don't apply.

toephu2 7y ago

Not quite true, in China the government usually tries to compensate you fairly for your house and cannot "force" you to leave (although I'm sure it happens). https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/dec/01/chinese-highway-house-demolished https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/dec/01/chinese-highwa...

bpicolo 7y ago
> All land in China is state-owned, and residents are typically offered a fraction of their home's original value in compensation.
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- zachguo 7y ago
  This is utterly false. They are usually compensated 3 times the market value. Simply ask common people in China, everybody wants their houses to be torn down by the government. Sometimes the government cannot afford it, that's why you may see a block of hutong or city-village in a fancy CBD.

headsupftw 7y ago

Please go to China and talk to people with no rights but lots and lots of dough because their land/houses got confiscated by the commies in order to build high rises, freeways, high-speed train tracks or whatever the Nazi government has conjured up. They are literally the envy of the young generation because they no longer have to work (that IMHO is indeed a problem). But alas they don't have rights whereas homeless people in San Francisco can defecate freely and indulge themselves in needles basking in the democratic sun. Make no mistake I'm a staunch supporter of democracy and freedom and despise the fact that China is lacking in both probably as much as you do. But please get your facts straight and refrain from using your imagination to comment on a country you most likely have never been to.