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The Arab invasion of Persia is overblown. What seems to have happened is some Buffer states between Byzantine and Persia revolted and took some land in Iran. M

The Arab invasion of Persia is overblown. What seems to have happened is some Buffer states between Byzantine and Persia revolted and took some land in Iran. Most of Islam's early history is forged. For example take the location of their holy city of Mecca. Muhammed never stepped into Mecca and he was from Petra. Dan Gibson has done an excellent documentary on it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOnGvzVceVo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOnGvzVceVo) As for the name Muhammed goes, it means "chosen one". It was name used to refer to Jesus initially. Half the christians claimed he was the son of god while the other half believed he was just a normal human who was chosen by god. They started calling him Muhammed instead implying he was not the son of god.

Nicholas_C 7y ago
>Muhammed never stepped into Mecca Muhammed was from Mecca so I’m not sure about that.
- jcranmer 7y ago
  The parent is referring to a thesis that Muhammad was not from Mecca, and the entire insertion of Mecca is a politically-motivated alteration to early Islam. This theory hasn't gained a lot of credence among modern historians, however. (See https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/98auh0/does_daniel_gibson_thesis_regarding_petra_as/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/98auh0/does_... for example).
eternalban 7y ago
> As for the name Muhammed goes, it means "chosen one". Actually the name of the Prophet has the Arabic roots h.m.d. denoting 'praise', and we have the names Ahmad, Muhammad, and Hamid derived from that root. This isn't esoteric occult knowledge, btw. You could do a cursory search before you post: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_%28name%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_%28name%29
self 7y ago
> Dan Gibson claims that early mosques face Petra rather than Mecca. But he compares the mosque orientations with MODERN directions of Petra and Mecca. He does not realise that historical qibla directions cannot be the same as modern qibla directions. In fact, the easiest mosque orientations were not calculated at all, but relied on astronomical horizon phenomena, not least because the Kaaba itself is astronomically aligned. A paper: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330221815 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330221815

Nicholas_C 7y ago

>Muhammed never stepped into Mecca Muhammed was from Mecca so I’m not sure about that.

jcranmer 7y ago
The parent is referring to a thesis that Muhammad was not from Mecca, and the entire insertion of Mecca is a politically-motivated alteration to early Islam. This theory hasn't gained a lot of credence among modern historians, however. (See https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/98auh0/does_daniel_gibson_thesis_regarding_petra_as/ https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/98auh0/does_... for example).

eternalban 7y ago

> As for the name Muhammed goes, it means "chosen one". Actually the name of the Prophet has the Arabic roots h.m.d. denoting 'praise', and we have the names Ahmad, Muhammad, and Hamid derived from that root. This isn't esoteric occult knowledge, btw. You could do a cursory search before you post: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_%28name%29 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_%28name%29

self 7y ago

> Dan Gibson claims that early mosques face Petra rather than Mecca. But he compares the mosque orientations with MODERN directions of Petra and Mecca. He does not realise that historical qibla directions cannot be the same as modern qibla directions. In fact, the easiest mosque orientations were not calculated at all, but relied on astronomical horizon phenomena, not least because the Kaaba itself is astronomically aligned. A paper: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330221815 https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330221815