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> They thought they where cool toys. Well they are - in the sense that the practical value is very limited and there are better alternatives in every regard (e
by rubber_duck 7y ago
> They thought they where cool toys.
Well they are - in the sense that the practical value is very limited and there are better alternatives in every regard (even in the ideal scenario where you live in a place with excellent riding conditions and limited parking which benefits a bike - a scooter is going to give you easier riding since it's automatic, less maintenance, more storage capacity and will be plenty fast for commuting if you get 300/600cc ones).
My bike is a toy - it's just a dangerous one.
- Rainymood 7y agoWhat is a tool and what is a toy? Or do they overlap? I would classify a motorcycle (I have one too) as a tool for both transport (get me from A to B) and fun (riding it is fun). That being said, holy mother of god it is stressful when there are other cars on the road, people are freaking scary in cars.
- Excel_Wizard 7y agoThey overlap. My bandsaw is a tool and a toy. Cars are often toys, but almost always tools.
- Rainymood 7y agoPerhaps they are two completely different dimensions, imagine the x-axis being the "toolness" of something and the y-axis being the "toyness" of something. A nuclear reactor is something that would have a very low "toyness" score, i.e. you wouldn't "play" with it. A plastic toy car would have a very high "toyness" score, as it is literally designed to play with (by kids). I kind of fear my analogy of two different dimensions breaks down here because I'm left wondering what things would have a low "toolness" score ...
- avn2109 7y ago> I kind of fear my analogy of two different dimensions breaks down here because I'm left wondering what things would have a low "toolness" score ... Haute couture fashion?
- danaris 7y agoThe plastic toy car—it doesn't have any use beyond its toyness. It can't get you anywhere, or cut things into neat shapes. "Toolness" is, at least to a large extent, a synonym for "(practical) utility".
- Rainymood 7y agoIndeed, I think "toolness" should be replaced by "impact" or "effectiveness". Code, for example, can be played with but can also deliver significant impact to a large group of people. A toy car, as another example, can be played with but delivers value to only one person at once (well, depending on how you use it).
- johnr2 7y ago> I kind of fear my analogy of two different dimensions breaks down here because I'm left wondering what things would have a low "toolness" score ... Maybe expressing it as a complex number would help, eg. toolness + i(toyness) In polar form a low angle would indicate a high "toolness to toyness" ratio.
- Rainymood 7y agoThe (real, complex) plane is equivalent to (toyness, toolness) although it is an interesting idea indeed to express it in polar coordinates hah
- hammock 7y agoCan you take a scooter on a highway?
- throwaway66920 7y agoScooters aren’t cool enough
- travisjungroth 7y agoLike a motorcycle, depends on how fast it goes (how much power it has). 49cc scooter no, 650cc scooter yes.