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Right. The US only. Well, also Japan. Also, Korea. I guess also much of Europe too. Or Canada. But, yeah other than that. Which I guess is really just India and

Right. The US only. Well, also Japan. Also, Korea. I guess also much of Europe too. Or Canada. But, yeah other than that. Which I guess is really just India and China. So I guess the reason is median/mean income??

tanilama 7y ago
https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share/ https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share... Adding Huawei+Xiaomi+Oppo+Vivo alone counts 45% of the world smart share already, by units, and the others consisting ZTE/Lenovo and other Chinese brands as well. Safe to say the Chinese phones are already 50% of all phones shipped. Yes, it is pretty dominating. Had not for the Trump ban, Huawei would probably dethrone Samsung in EU as well, according to analysis in Feb https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/14/18224614/huawei-chinese-phones-europe-market-share-2018 https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/14/18224614/huawei-chinese-p... As a gadget enthusiasts, though overall the phone innovation is slowing down, but at least Chinese brands are the fewer left there to churn out marketable features, like those monstrous cameras and tricks to hide it. Apple and Samsung are just being lazy there, with incremental upgrade which command a premium
- creddit 7y ago
  You said "US is by far the only market that Chinese phones haven't dominated" So Chinese phone manufacturers making up 1/3 of the European market, as per your link, is them dominating it??? Chinese phones don't dominate worldwide in the sense of geography. They dominate worldwide in the sense of units because they are the low margin, budget phone manufacturers supplying lower income parts of the world. Not a bad place to be, but doesn't remotely support your assertion above that the US is the only market they don't dominate. That's obviously wrong just from your own sources.
  - coldtea 7y ago
    >So Chinese phone manufacturers making up 1/3 of the European market, as per your link, is them dominating it??? Considering that a lot or most of the iPhones and Samsung phones sold (well, before the moving out) were also made in China, yes. The 1/3 you mention are just the Chinese brands....
    - tooltalk 7y ago
      Apple iPhone, yes, they are made in China; most Samsung phones were made in Vietnam by 2017 and on. So no.
  - oblio 7y ago
    While you're partially right, I wouldn't look at the smartphone sales trends if I were you... Chinese phones were at something like 1% 5 years ago and now they're at 45%. There's also not much sign of them slowing down. Samsung was basically saved from being overtaken by Huawei as #1 by Trump's ban.
    - tracker1 7y ago
      The higher end Huawei devices were nearly as good, but significantly lower priced, or better for similar pricing. Was actually considering a Matebook as a future laptop purchase in a year or so.
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Illniyar 7y ago
To be fair India and China makes up almost 40% of the world population.

tanilama 7y ago

https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share/ https://www.counterpointresearch.com/global-smartphone-share... Adding Huawei+Xiaomi+Oppo+Vivo alone counts 45% of the world smart share already, by units, and the others consisting ZTE/Lenovo and other Chinese brands as well. Safe to say the Chinese phones are already 50% of all phones shipped. Yes, it is pretty dominating. Had not for the Trump ban, Huawei would probably dethrone Samsung in EU as well, according to analysis in Feb https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/14/18224614/huawei-chinese-phones-europe-market-share-2018 https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/14/18224614/huawei-chinese-p... As a gadget enthusiasts, though overall the phone innovation is slowing down, but at least Chinese brands are the fewer left there to churn out marketable features, like those monstrous cameras and tricks to hide it. Apple and Samsung are just being lazy there, with incremental upgrade which command a premium

creddit 7y ago
You said "US is by far the only market that Chinese phones haven't dominated" So Chinese phone manufacturers making up 1/3 of the European market, as per your link, is them dominating it??? Chinese phones don't dominate worldwide in the sense of geography. They dominate worldwide in the sense of units because they are the low margin, budget phone manufacturers supplying lower income parts of the world. Not a bad place to be, but doesn't remotely support your assertion above that the US is the only market they don't dominate. That's obviously wrong just from your own sources.
- coldtea 7y ago
  >So Chinese phone manufacturers making up 1/3 of the European market, as per your link, is them dominating it??? Considering that a lot or most of the iPhones and Samsung phones sold (well, before the moving out) were also made in China, yes. The 1/3 you mention are just the Chinese brands....
  - tooltalk 7y ago
    Apple iPhone, yes, they are made in China; most Samsung phones were made in Vietnam by 2017 and on. So no.
- oblio 7y ago
  While you're partially right, I wouldn't look at the smartphone sales trends if I were you... Chinese phones were at something like 1% 5 years ago and now they're at 45%. There's also not much sign of them slowing down. Samsung was basically saved from being overtaken by Huawei as #1 by Trump's ban.
  - tracker1 7y ago
    The higher end Huawei devices were nearly as good, but significantly lower priced, or better for similar pricing. Was actually considering a Matebook as a future laptop purchase in a year or so.
  - deleted 7y ago
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Illniyar 7y ago

To be fair India and China makes up almost 40% of the world population.