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Stuff like this is one of the main reasons I focused my efforts on web apps, not native ones. https://hkmap.live/# https://hkmap.live/# Looks like the devs we

Stuff like this is one of the main reasons I focused my efforts on web apps, not native ones. https://hkmap.live/# https://hkmap.live/# Looks like the devs were smart enough to make it a web app, so it can still be used.

JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago
To be fair, if your app submission is a glorified Web App (leveraging no native iOS features) Apple will reject for that reason alone [0]. "4.2 Minimum Functionality - Your app should include features, content, and UI that elevate it beyond a repackaged website." [0]: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#minimum-functionality https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#min...
- thomasfedb 7y ago
  Are "website" and "web app" synonymous?
  - grandsui 7y ago
    To me a website can be a static webpage, but a web app's more dynamic
    - thomasfedb 7y ago
      Agreed, I would argue that web app implies function above a website.
- kovek 7y ago
  Why is this comment being downvoted? It does contribute to the discussion.
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  - Razengan 7y ago
    HN has long since been devolving into Reddit in all but name. You will generally get insta-downvoted if you say something that goes against the current bandwagon or that someone doesn't like to hear/talk about.
  - amaccuish 7y ago
    Because it's completely irrelevant. The point is that having a webapp allows them to continue to serve users if their actual app is removed from app stores. It has no bearing on how their native app functions, whether it is in native code or a web wrapper etc.
    - superkuh 7y ago
      This only applies because Apple runs a walled garden that is anti-user. People running actual computers with non-user-hostile operating systems can install whatever software they like. This is entirely apple's fault. Websites are not applications. The browser is not an OS.
- RealStickman 7y ago
  They didn't remove it for that reason though.
- rolltiide 7y ago
  not relevant here just tell mobile users to bookmark the page, on iOS that can make an icon on your home screen
bathtub365 7y ago
The government could just block this directly using their national firewall instead of having to get a company to do it, couldn’t they?
- FooBarWidget 7y ago
  Hong Kong does not have a firewall. It seems most people on HN think Hong Kong is governed like the rest of China, but it is not.
  - votepaunchy 7y ago
    ... it is not yet [until 2047 at the latest].
  - drusepth 7y ago
    (Please) correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that... what this whole protest is about? HK staying under independent rule instead of (forcefully) adopting Chinese rule?
    - whoevercares 7y ago
      The protest is directly triggered by the new law that will send murders to China but people fears that it’ll be abused to send anyone to China. They made a whole bunch of extra requirements which is probably against Beijing’s long term vision of HK. I respect their motivation but I wish they could do it more incrementally and with less disruption of normal people’s life(at this point the protesters are almost school students)
      - FooBarWidget 7y ago
        Parent is being downvoted because most people on HN cannot fanthom how anyone can genuinely and legitimately not take the extreme opinion of "everything China does is evil", but the parent's opinion is more representative of many Hong Kong people' actual opinions, than HNers think. That is: not saying China is evil, but also not denying that China is problematic, while focusing more on the practicality of the way the protesters do things. You don't have to believe my word for it. Go look up Hong Kong related questions on https://Quora.com https://Quora.com and read what Hong Kongers think. A whole new world will open for you. The answers posted there are too detailed and too well-argumented to be simply propaganda by paid Beijing workers. Propagandists are paid by comment, so they are incentivized to write many short comments instead of long and elaborate ones.
tanilama 7y ago
The government can just take the internet down for the protest area. There is only that far technology can go.
- Tinfoilhat666 7y ago
  The protesters are using bluetooth mesh apps like Bridgefy and firechat to share data even if internet is down.
  - Eldt 7y ago
    It has to hit the wider internet somehow...
    - Eldt 7y ago
      Oh, I now realise you're talking about their local communication
    - antihero 7y ago
      Surely the mesh can have edge nodes that are online?

JMTQp8lwXL 7y ago

To be fair, if your app submission is a glorified Web App (leveraging no native iOS features) Apple will reject for that reason alone [0]. "4.2 Minimum Functionality - Your app should include features, content, and UI that elevate it beyond a repackaged website." [0]: https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#minimum-functionality https://developer.apple.com/app-store/review/guidelines/#min...

thomasfedb 7y ago
Are "website" and "web app" synonymous?
- grandsui 7y ago
  To me a website can be a static webpage, but a web app's more dynamic
  - thomasfedb 7y ago
    Agreed, I would argue that web app implies function above a website.
kovek 7y ago
Why is this comment being downvoted? It does contribute to the discussion.
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- Razengan 7y ago
  HN has long since been devolving into Reddit in all but name. You will generally get insta-downvoted if you say something that goes against the current bandwagon or that someone doesn't like to hear/talk about.
- amaccuish 7y ago
  Because it's completely irrelevant. The point is that having a webapp allows them to continue to serve users if their actual app is removed from app stores. It has no bearing on how their native app functions, whether it is in native code or a web wrapper etc.
  - superkuh 7y ago
    This only applies because Apple runs a walled garden that is anti-user. People running actual computers with non-user-hostile operating systems can install whatever software they like. This is entirely apple's fault. Websites are not applications. The browser is not an OS.
RealStickman 7y ago
They didn't remove it for that reason though.
rolltiide 7y ago
not relevant here just tell mobile users to bookmark the page, on iOS that can make an icon on your home screen

bathtub365 7y ago

The government could just block this directly using their national firewall instead of having to get a company to do it, couldn’t they?

FooBarWidget 7y ago
Hong Kong does not have a firewall. It seems most people on HN think Hong Kong is governed like the rest of China, but it is not.
- votepaunchy 7y ago
  ... it is not yet [until 2047 at the latest].
- drusepth 7y ago
  (Please) correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that... what this whole protest is about? HK staying under independent rule instead of (forcefully) adopting Chinese rule?
  - whoevercares 7y ago
    The protest is directly triggered by the new law that will send murders to China but people fears that it’ll be abused to send anyone to China. They made a whole bunch of extra requirements which is probably against Beijing’s long term vision of HK. I respect their motivation but I wish they could do it more incrementally and with less disruption of normal people’s life(at this point the protesters are almost school students)
    - FooBarWidget 7y ago
      Parent is being downvoted because most people on HN cannot fanthom how anyone can genuinely and legitimately not take the extreme opinion of "everything China does is evil", but the parent's opinion is more representative of many Hong Kong people' actual opinions, than HNers think. That is: not saying China is evil, but also not denying that China is problematic, while focusing more on the practicality of the way the protesters do things. You don't have to believe my word for it. Go look up Hong Kong related questions on https://Quora.com https://Quora.com and read what Hong Kongers think. A whole new world will open for you. The answers posted there are too detailed and too well-argumented to be simply propaganda by paid Beijing workers. Propagandists are paid by comment, so they are incentivized to write many short comments instead of long and elaborate ones.

tanilama 7y ago

The government can just take the internet down for the protest area. There is only that far technology can go.

Tinfoilhat666 7y ago
The protesters are using bluetooth mesh apps like Bridgefy and firechat to share data even if internet is down.
- Eldt 7y ago
  It has to hit the wider internet somehow...
  - Eldt 7y ago
    Oh, I now realise you're talking about their local communication
  - antihero 7y ago
    Surely the mesh can have edge nodes that are online?