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You don't have to circumvent anything and that's the crux of it. Android lets you install applications without having to jailbreak your phone or do any other t

You don't have to circumvent anything and that's the crux of it. Android lets you install applications without having to jailbreak your phone or do any other trickery. This should be a prerequisite for any OS (with all the necessary warnings).

innagadadavida 7y ago
There are at least two ways to install apps outside of the App Store: https://www.iotransfer.net/tips/how-to-download-apps-without-app-store-865.php https://www.iotransfer.net/tips/how-to-download-apps-without... In addition you could use TestFlight or HockeyApp to distribute to limited beta testers. HN is a technical forum, proselytizing based on your software freedom beliefs by selectively using facts is very disingenuous. Android works for you, that is great - other people actually have “freedom” to ignore your definition of freedom and do what they want.
- lern_too_spel 7y ago
  Your solution is to use an enterprise certificate from Anokiiwin Employment Solutions Inc or NANJING SCIYON SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD. Both will certainly get revoked soon. HN is a technical forum, so we understand why your solution doesn't actually work.
  - innagadadavida 7y ago
    That’s really funny, trusting my entire data, location, photos all to Google is certainly a big concern for me. I’d rather install that Chinese certificate than give my data to Google. Also, it’s entirely within Googles powers to make Android store closed like the App Store, so can we not speculate on future events? Edit: reworded my comment
    - thekyle 7y ago
      Please don't use these types of irrelevant personal attacks on HN. /u/lern_to_spel has a very good point that your mentioned alternatives will likely be shut down by Apple and are not officially supported. If you are going to argue, do it against the most generous interpretation of someone else's words.
- saagarjha 7y ago
  TestFlight requires a review process and HockeyApp uses enterprise certificates, AFAIK. They’re both in the hands of Apple.
  - wickedsickeune 7y ago
    You forgot that the proposed use case for both TestFlight & HockeyApp is against the ToS of both those services and Apple, and will be immediately flagged if you use it for large scale distribution. Also TestFlight afaik only allows 1000 users, which is not that much.

innagadadavida 7y ago

There are at least two ways to install apps outside of the App Store: https://www.iotransfer.net/tips/how-to-download-apps-without-app-store-865.php https://www.iotransfer.net/tips/how-to-download-apps-without... In addition you could use TestFlight or HockeyApp to distribute to limited beta testers. HN is a technical forum, proselytizing based on your software freedom beliefs by selectively using facts is very disingenuous. Android works for you, that is great - other people actually have “freedom” to ignore your definition of freedom and do what they want.

lern_too_spel 7y ago
Your solution is to use an enterprise certificate from Anokiiwin Employment Solutions Inc or NANJING SCIYON SOFTWARE TECHNOLOGY CO., LTD. Both will certainly get revoked soon. HN is a technical forum, so we understand why your solution doesn't actually work.
- innagadadavida 7y ago
  That’s really funny, trusting my entire data, location, photos all to Google is certainly a big concern for me. I’d rather install that Chinese certificate than give my data to Google. Also, it’s entirely within Googles powers to make Android store closed like the App Store, so can we not speculate on future events? Edit: reworded my comment
  - thekyle 7y ago
    Please don't use these types of irrelevant personal attacks on HN. /u/lern_to_spel has a very good point that your mentioned alternatives will likely be shut down by Apple and are not officially supported. If you are going to argue, do it against the most generous interpretation of someone else's words.
saagarjha 7y ago
TestFlight requires a review process and HockeyApp uses enterprise certificates, AFAIK. They’re both in the hands of Apple.
- wickedsickeune 7y ago
  You forgot that the proposed use case for both TestFlight & HockeyApp is against the ToS of both those services and Apple, and will be immediately flagged if you use it for large scale distribution. Also TestFlight afaik only allows 1000 users, which is not that much.