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Who should decide?

• protomyth 7y ago
  The owner of the phone. Lack of side loading is the problem.
  • on_and_off 7y ago
    this. side-loading ... the term itself is ridiculous. You cannot just load an app on your phone unless Apple approves it.
    • brian-armstrong 7y ago
      It's actually a historical term - it came about from loading apps on the Nokia Ngage ("side-talking")
      • hug 7y ago
        It sure didn't. Sideloading came about as content was generally downloaded elsewhere and then pushed onto a device over a local connection -- i.e. sideways. It's a lot older than the N-Gage.
• antoinevg 7y ago
  No one should get to decide is the point. You may be a bit young to remember this but it was once possible to install any software on hardware you owned without permission from the manufacturer.
  • stanmancan 7y ago
    And that’s how the common person ends up with devices riddled with viruses, malware, and spyware. I don’t disagree with you, but the walled garden approach is certainly a safer option for the vast majority of end users.
    • qlk1123 7y ago
      No. Linux Desktop suffer much fewer virus attacks and they are certainly NOT walled garden.
      • Ygg2 7y ago
        That's function of its obscurity, not its design.
        • jethro_tell 7y ago
          not entirely, more a function of it's multi user mode as default and repos. Those two things would have gone a long ways for early windows as well. It's also worth noting that there are a lot of linux servers in the wild that are hacked serving shitty wordpress malware and spam email servers. Sure the desktop is fine, it's a very small piece of the pie, but the overall linux install ends up running bad software and poor configurations just like any OS.
      • npo9 7y ago
        If Linux Desktop is a safer environment it has just as much to do with its obscurity as it does with it’s improved security mode. Add a few hundred million gullible users and you’ll see more malware in Linux Desktop.
      • jethro_tell 7y ago
        So first, having a multi user system was a good idea, running as a non privileged user is a good idea, and installing software through repos is a good idea. Linux isn't immune, it's just attacked differently and doesn't have the kind of surface area that would make attacks worth the effort. (not that there aren't thousands of linux boxes out there that are borked, they just aren't making the browser slow so people don't complain about it in the same way. What would work really nicely here, is if apple had the app store as well as repo packages. So installing fdroid-for-iPhone from the play store shows all fdroid apps next time I look for apps. like adding a ppr to a deb box. I don't know if they could still get leaned on to remove the access to that in the same way, but I would venture to guess that a secondary market for repos could be built in a way that is mildly vetted and also not tied to shareholder interests.
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• michaelbrave 7y ago
  let people install software on a phone like we do on a computer maybe, you know, app store optional.