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Can the Taycan compete on price, speed, range, and charging network? AFAIK it loses in all of those categories.

threeseed 7y ago
Can a Tesla compete on brand, design, interior fit, build quality, support, charging speed, repeatability, handing ? AFAIK it loses in all of these categories.
- kipchak 7y ago
  I don't have any numbers, but on the brand point I'd figure Tesla might be in a stronger position than Porsche in the younger demographics.
  - vkou 7y ago
    Young people have been, and will continue to be buying 10-year old junkers, not brand-new Teslas. Outside of the tech bubble, money doesn't grow on trees.
  - threeseed 7y ago
    So we are playing the move the goalpost game. Younger demographics have less disposal income so they are hardly the type of customer you want to be betting on.
    - FullyFunctional 7y ago
      Who is moving goal posts? You claim above that the Porche is "Better in every way". Two rather significant ways it's not: speed and range.
- sockgrant 7y ago
  I thought Tesla superchargers have faster charging speed? They have 150kW charging, is Porsche doing something better? OP said Taycan is the new Model S, I think that your comment vs. mine highlights that this isn't true -- Taycan customers are not the same as Tesla customers. Tesla customers get a good bang for their buck -- speed, range, charging network at a cheap price. Porsche customers get brand, design, & build quality. Someone who values what Porsche has to offer probably was never interested in a Tesla. Meanwhile a Model 3 Performance -- the same speed as the Taycan -- costs $90,000 less.
  - threeseed 7y ago
    Porsche Taycan can charge at up to 270kW and they are working on a software update to bump this up to 400-500kW. The Model 3 can charge at 250kW. And not sure why you are comparing the Model 3 to a Taycan as they are completely different segments.
    - sockgrant 7y ago
      Do you have any comment on my assertion that Taycan is not a Model S replacement?
  - jsight 7y ago
    Porsche has 250 kw, just like Tesla does on the LR Model 3. But supposedly Porsche will soon have 350 kw. The real metric is miles added per minute, though, and I haven't really seen an apples to apples comparison there.
- nickik 7y ago
  > brand Yes, its way better. > design Yes. > interior fit I much rather have the interior of a Tesla. I car much more about the cool features then complaining about a slight overlap of two plastic panals that are under the seat, or whatever car german fetishits obsess about. > charging speed They have a small advantage on a tiny number of actual charging stations but the majority of the time your gone charge much slower.

Can a Tesla compete on brand, design, interior fit, build quality, support, charging speed, repeatability, handing ? AFAIK it loses in all of these categories.

kipchak 7y ago
I don't have any numbers, but on the brand point I'd figure Tesla might be in a stronger position than Porsche in the younger demographics.
- vkou 7y ago
  Young people have been, and will continue to be buying 10-year old junkers, not brand-new Teslas. Outside of the tech bubble, money doesn't grow on trees.
- threeseed 7y ago
  So we are playing the move the goalpost game. Younger demographics have less disposal income so they are hardly the type of customer you want to be betting on.
  - FullyFunctional 7y ago
    Who is moving goal posts? You claim above that the Porche is "Better in every way". Two rather significant ways it's not: speed and range.
sockgrant 7y ago
I thought Tesla superchargers have faster charging speed? They have 150kW charging, is Porsche doing something better? OP said Taycan is the new Model S, I think that your comment vs. mine highlights that this isn't true -- Taycan customers are not the same as Tesla customers. Tesla customers get a good bang for their buck -- speed, range, charging network at a cheap price. Porsche customers get brand, design, & build quality. Someone who values what Porsche has to offer probably was never interested in a Tesla. Meanwhile a Model 3 Performance -- the same speed as the Taycan -- costs $90,000 less.
- threeseed 7y ago
  Porsche Taycan can charge at up to 270kW and they are working on a software update to bump this up to 400-500kW. The Model 3 can charge at 250kW. And not sure why you are comparing the Model 3 to a Taycan as they are completely different segments.
  - sockgrant 7y ago
    Do you have any comment on my assertion that Taycan is not a Model S replacement?
- jsight 7y ago
  Porsche has 250 kw, just like Tesla does on the LR Model 3. But supposedly Porsche will soon have 350 kw. The real metric is miles added per minute, though, and I haven't really seen an apples to apples comparison there.
nickik 7y ago
> brand Yes, its way better. > design Yes. > interior fit I much rather have the interior of a Tesla. I car much more about the cool features then complaining about a slight overlap of two plastic panals that are under the seat, or whatever car german fetishits obsess about. > charging speed They have a small advantage on a tiny number of actual charging stations but the majority of the time your gone charge much slower.