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I would note that at least based on the educators I know, private schools often tend to pay LESS than public. Obviously, this may be dependent on area, but in G

I would note that at least based on the educators I know, private schools often tend to pay LESS than public. Obviously, this may be dependent on area, but in Georgia at least, teachers at private schools typically make less once you factor in things like 401k, retirement, and health insurance. A lot less. This is an anecdote but my cousin's wife quit her job at a public high school to work at a private school, allegedly for a more flexible schedule/slightly better base pay. She was then diagnosed with cancer (and at 35, that wasn't something she/her family was expecting) and the benefits for sick leave, not to mention medical costs, were so much worse, it was basically a nightmare. Fortunately, her husband kept his education job for the county so the insurance situation was a lot better -- but she lost access to a lot of other benefits that had a very high monetary and quality of life value. I have other friends back home who left public schools for private, thinking they'd make more money -- found out the grass was not greener -- and then had a hell of a time getting a job back in their old school system. It may be true in some areas with really poor public schools that private is going to pay better -- but public or private, as you say, in many cases, the pay just isn't going to be great.

mehhh 7y ago
Private schools are a 10k to 15k pay haircut in Seattle, most require a morality clause that makes being LGBTQ+ a firable offence, and the vaccination rates are appallingly low compared to public schools. Seattle's Catholic Schools are single handedly bringing back Measles & Rubella as a latent disease, where it used to not exist. With Running Start being an option for the last 2 years of High School (if your in public school), its much easier to advance your education rapidly if you so choose.
- femto113 7y ago
  Seattle has hundreds of private schools, I doubt more than a handful have anything like the morality clause you cite, and most that I am aware of are explicit about their support of LGBTQ+. Do you have some source for your claim?
  - mehhh 7y ago
    Kings School, all Catholic run schools (which are the majority of the private schools in the region) and the other various religious schools have this clause. My neighbor was fired over it and had trouble finding work at other private schools as there are just a handful of Montessori and language immersion schools, with everything else that isn't SPS having a Morals clause. Edit: The GSBA directory only lists 2 schools, most private schools in Seattle are not supportive: http://thegsba.org/business-resources/guide-directory/single-category?category=schools http://thegsba.org/business-resources/guide-directory/single...
    - femto113 7y ago
      I confess general ignorance of the religious schools in the area, but while this obviously this isn't an exhaustive survey the following examples seem typical of secular schools in the area (all quotes lifted from the school's websites). Northwest School "Diversity is our commitment to build [a] community that includes individuals and families who represent a wide variety of ... gender identity and expression, sexual orientation" Seattle Academy "includes and embraces a spectrum of differences in ... gender, sexual orientation" Lakeside "Lakeside is committed to creating an inclusive and equitable community in which all individuals can participate in and contribute to the life of the school, regardless of ... gender, ... sexual orientation, or any other aspect of their identity."
    - cowsandmilk 7y ago
      Why would anyone believe the GBSA is a comprehensive list? The Seattle Academy isn't on the list and literally held the state conference for GLSEN this year ( https://sites.google.com/glsenwa.org/2019-conference/home https://sites.google.com/glsenwa.org/2019-conference/home ). > Catholic run schools (which are the majority of the private schools in the region) Going to various directories that let you filter by religious affiliations shows that catholic schools are probably ~20% of the private schools in Kings County and ~15% across Washington State. Christian schools make up another ~25% in Seattle and ~20% statewide. So, while a significant portion, Catholic is definitely not the majority and the combination of Catholic+Christian might approach 50%. I went to the first two schools alphabetically in NWAIS's directory of members for Seattle and they both had nondiscrimination policies that included sexual orientation and gender identity. Neither is Montessori or language immersion. Bertschi (admittedly on the GBSA list also): https://www.bertschi.org/jobs https://www.bertschi.org/jobs Billings: http://billingsmiddleschool.org/employment http://billingsmiddleschool.org/employment
- dboreham 7y ago
  How is that legal? Some "we're a religion" loophole?

mehhh 7y ago

Private schools are a 10k to 15k pay haircut in Seattle, most require a morality clause that makes being LGBTQ+ a firable offence, and the vaccination rates are appallingly low compared to public schools. Seattle's Catholic Schools are single handedly bringing back Measles & Rubella as a latent disease, where it used to not exist. With Running Start being an option for the last 2 years of High School (if your in public school), its much easier to advance your education rapidly if you so choose.

femto113 7y ago
Seattle has hundreds of private schools, I doubt more than a handful have anything like the morality clause you cite, and most that I am aware of are explicit about their support of LGBTQ+. Do you have some source for your claim?
- mehhh 7y ago
  Kings School, all Catholic run schools (which are the majority of the private schools in the region) and the other various religious schools have this clause. My neighbor was fired over it and had trouble finding work at other private schools as there are just a handful of Montessori and language immersion schools, with everything else that isn't SPS having a Morals clause. Edit: The GSBA directory only lists 2 schools, most private schools in Seattle are not supportive: http://thegsba.org/business-resources/guide-directory/single-category?category=schools http://thegsba.org/business-resources/guide-directory/single...
  - femto113 7y ago
    I confess general ignorance of the religious schools in the area, but while this obviously this isn't an exhaustive survey the following examples seem typical of secular schools in the area (all quotes lifted from the school's websites). Northwest School "Diversity is our commitment to build [a] community that includes individuals and families who represent a wide variety of ... gender identity and expression, sexual orientation" Seattle Academy "includes and embraces a spectrum of differences in ... gender, sexual orientation" Lakeside "Lakeside is committed to creating an inclusive and equitable community in which all individuals can participate in and contribute to the life of the school, regardless of ... gender, ... sexual orientation, or any other aspect of their identity."
  - cowsandmilk 7y ago
    Why would anyone believe the GBSA is a comprehensive list? The Seattle Academy isn't on the list and literally held the state conference for GLSEN this year ( https://sites.google.com/glsenwa.org/2019-conference/home https://sites.google.com/glsenwa.org/2019-conference/home ). > Catholic run schools (which are the majority of the private schools in the region) Going to various directories that let you filter by religious affiliations shows that catholic schools are probably ~20% of the private schools in Kings County and ~15% across Washington State. Christian schools make up another ~25% in Seattle and ~20% statewide. So, while a significant portion, Catholic is definitely not the majority and the combination of Catholic+Christian might approach 50%. I went to the first two schools alphabetically in NWAIS's directory of members for Seattle and they both had nondiscrimination policies that included sexual orientation and gender identity. Neither is Montessori or language immersion. Bertschi (admittedly on the GBSA list also): https://www.bertschi.org/jobs https://www.bertschi.org/jobs Billings: http://billingsmiddleschool.org/employment http://billingsmiddleschool.org/employment
dboreham 7y ago
How is that legal? Some "we're a religion" loophole?