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Isn't testosterone simply a byproduct of other hormonal processes? More of a measurement of effect than cause?

by devwastaken 7y ago

shoes_for_thee 7y ago
Ah, no. Adding extra testosterone to any human will cause them to become more male by any measure of maleness.
- adrr 7y ago
  And also more female as the testosterone is aromatized in estrogen.
perardi 7y ago
I guess? It's intimately related to the hypothalamic–pituitary–thyroid axis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamic–pituitary–thyroid_axis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamic–pituitary–thyroid... But I'm not sure what you're getting at. Trust me, inject 500mg of testosterone a week, you're going to notice changes.
CryoLogic 7y ago
Testosterone is generated a number of ways in the human body - but most of it comes from the testicles in men. A smaller amount is from the pituitary in both men and women. Depending on your weight there is an enzyme created in fat cells called aromatase which converts testosterone to estrogens which can have an impact on your overall hormonal picture. Testosterone is derived in the body from cholesterol, which is way proper fat consumption is so important for a healthy endocrine system.
meiraleal 7y ago
Is it? So why administering intramuscular testoterone has anabolic/androgen effects?
- queercode 7y ago
  I don't think this is true. Intramuscular testosterone is the most common method of HRT for trans men / trans masc folks. The effects of which are not "androgen".
  - gliboc 7y ago
    FYI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgyny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgyny
  - perardi 7y ago
    What? Every anabolic/androgenic steroid has some degree of androgenic effects. Researchers and pharma tried for decades to create a steroid that has no androgenic effects, to no avail. Even a 5mg dose of Anavar, one of the softest steroids that were actively prescribed for women, had androgenic effects. Testosterone has a 100/100 anabolic/androgenic ratio. It's definitely androgenic. It will literally put hair on your chest. I don't know what point you're trying to make here.

Isn't testosterone simply a byproduct of other hormonal processes? More of a measurement of effect than cause?

shoes_for_thee 7y ago

Ah, no. Adding extra testosterone to any human will cause them to become more male by any measure of maleness.

adrr 7y ago
And also more female as the testosterone is aromatized in estrogen.

perardi 7y ago

I guess? It's intimately related to the hypothalamic–pituitary–thyroid axis. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamic–pituitary–thyroid_axis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothalamic–pituitary–thyroid... But I'm not sure what you're getting at. Trust me, inject 500mg of testosterone a week, you're going to notice changes.

CryoLogic 7y ago

Testosterone is generated a number of ways in the human body - but most of it comes from the testicles in men. A smaller amount is from the pituitary in both men and women. Depending on your weight there is an enzyme created in fat cells called aromatase which converts testosterone to estrogens which can have an impact on your overall hormonal picture. Testosterone is derived in the body from cholesterol, which is way proper fat consumption is so important for a healthy endocrine system.

meiraleal 7y ago

Is it? So why administering intramuscular testoterone has anabolic/androgen effects?

queercode 7y ago
I don't think this is true. Intramuscular testosterone is the most common method of HRT for trans men / trans masc folks. The effects of which are not "androgen".
- gliboc 7y ago
  FYI https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgyny https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androgyny
- perardi 7y ago
  What? Every anabolic/androgenic steroid has some degree of androgenic effects. Researchers and pharma tried for decades to create a steroid that has no androgenic effects, to no avail. Even a 5mg dose of Anavar, one of the softest steroids that were actively prescribed for women, had androgenic effects. Testosterone has a 100/100 anabolic/androgenic ratio. It's definitely androgenic. It will literally put hair on your chest. I don't know what point you're trying to make here.