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The airborne particulates from brakes is asbestos! edit: Very odd that both mine and the contradictory reply to it are both down voted. What I said is a fact,

The airborne particulates from brakes is asbestos! edit: Very odd that both mine and the contradictory reply to it are both down voted. What I said is a fact, so I'm not sure why anyone would disagree with it.

dsfyu404ed 7y ago
This hasn't been the case since the early 80s. Edit: Yes, you can probably find some no-name pads with asbestos if you look hard. Nobody is selling them knowingly in the US or EU. There are definitively some pads/shoes from the far east that contain asbestos. They don't get purchased by the auto parts stores and big parts suppliers that supply the shops that change most of the countries brakes. They get sold to importers who don't care what they're made of who are selling them on Amazon/Ebay/etc to DIYers at bottom dollar prices. That is such a tiny slice of a tiny slice of all pads it's basically nonexistant.
- everdrive 7y ago
  Without sarcasm, what are "raybestos" brakes made out of then? [edit] Thanks all for the clarification.
  - dsfyu404ed 7y ago
    Not asbestos and haven't been for decades. They actually have something like "contain no asbestos" on the box (or maybe it's on a piece of paper in the box, it's been awhile).
  - bcrosby95 7y ago
    https://www.asbestos.com/companies/raybestos-manhattan-raymark-industries/ https://www.asbestos.com/companies/raybestos-manhattan-rayma... Apparently the company hasn't produced a product with asbestos in it since the 80s.
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- badrequest 7y ago
  According to the Wikipedia article[1] for the company mentioned in one of the other replies to this comment: > The Raymark facility operated at (the Stratford) location from 1919 until 1989, manufacturing asbestos brake linings and other automotive asbestos products. so it hasn't been true for 30 years. :) [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raybestos#Superfund_site_cleanup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raybestos#Superfund_site_clean...
- likpok 7y ago
  Ford was shipping cars with asbestos brakes in 1993. Asbestos brakes are still readily available on the aftermarket. Brake pads since 2015 sold in California and Washington must have less than 0.1% asbestos by weight (it's unclear to me if that's asbestos alone, or asbestos and other heavy metals like cadmium or mercury). Since the ban was put into place in 2015, you can reasonably infer a) that there were brake pads above that limit in 2014 and b) there are brake pads slightly under that limit today.
  - dajohnson89 7y ago
    the subway brakes in washington dc are abestos brakes. you can smell them quite strongly.
    - nathancahill 7y ago
      Huh, TIL. Never knew what that smell was.
      - undersuit 7y ago
        Something's fishy: http://unsuckdcmetro.blogspot.com/2012/01/whats-that-foul-smell.html http://unsuckdcmetro.blogspot.com/2012/01/whats-that-foul-sm...
    - kleton 7y ago
      Can you really smell asbestos? I can't imagine silicate rock having a very high vapour pressure.
    - undersuit 7y ago
      In 1980? https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1980/11/11/latest-metro-problem-subway-trains-with-brakes-that-shriek/b6dca2e9-2d6d-4e02-80cd-cffaa0d51665/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1980/11/11/late...
    - rootusrootus 7y ago
      That is not correct. WMATA hasn't used asbestos brake pads in many years. Whatever you think you smell, that's not it
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dsfyu404ed 7y ago

This hasn't been the case since the early 80s. Edit: Yes, you can probably find some no-name pads with asbestos if you look hard. Nobody is selling them knowingly in the US or EU. There are definitively some pads/shoes from the far east that contain asbestos. They don't get purchased by the auto parts stores and big parts suppliers that supply the shops that change most of the countries brakes. They get sold to importers who don't care what they're made of who are selling them on Amazon/Ebay/etc to DIYers at bottom dollar prices. That is such a tiny slice of a tiny slice of all pads it's basically nonexistant.

everdrive 7y ago
Without sarcasm, what are "raybestos" brakes made out of then? [edit] Thanks all for the clarification.
- dsfyu404ed 7y ago
  Not asbestos and haven't been for decades. They actually have something like "contain no asbestos" on the box (or maybe it's on a piece of paper in the box, it's been awhile).
- bcrosby95 7y ago
  https://www.asbestos.com/companies/raybestos-manhattan-raymark-industries/ https://www.asbestos.com/companies/raybestos-manhattan-rayma... Apparently the company hasn't produced a product with asbestos in it since the 80s.
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badrequest 7y ago
According to the Wikipedia article[1] for the company mentioned in one of the other replies to this comment: > The Raymark facility operated at (the Stratford) location from 1919 until 1989, manufacturing asbestos brake linings and other automotive asbestos products. so it hasn't been true for 30 years. :) [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raybestos#Superfund_site_cleanup https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raybestos#Superfund_site_clean...
likpok 7y ago
Ford was shipping cars with asbestos brakes in 1993. Asbestos brakes are still readily available on the aftermarket. Brake pads since 2015 sold in California and Washington must have less than 0.1% asbestos by weight (it's unclear to me if that's asbestos alone, or asbestos and other heavy metals like cadmium or mercury). Since the ban was put into place in 2015, you can reasonably infer a) that there were brake pads above that limit in 2014 and b) there are brake pads slightly under that limit today.
- dajohnson89 7y ago
  the subway brakes in washington dc are abestos brakes. you can smell them quite strongly.
  - nathancahill 7y ago
    Huh, TIL. Never knew what that smell was.
    - undersuit 7y ago
      Something's fishy: http://unsuckdcmetro.blogspot.com/2012/01/whats-that-foul-smell.html http://unsuckdcmetro.blogspot.com/2012/01/whats-that-foul-sm...
  - kleton 7y ago
    Can you really smell asbestos? I can't imagine silicate rock having a very high vapour pressure.
  - undersuit 7y ago
    In 1980? https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1980/11/11/latest-metro-problem-subway-trains-with-brakes-that-shriek/b6dca2e9-2d6d-4e02-80cd-cffaa0d51665/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1980/11/11/late...
  - rootusrootus 7y ago
    That is not correct. WMATA hasn't used asbestos brake pads in many years. Whatever you think you smell, that's not it

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