5 ms·

I can't help thinking that the tacked-on whine about this is why people want iPads and not PCs would make more sense if this post were not about a web-app that

I can't help thinking that the tacked-on whine about this is why people want iPads and not PCs would make more sense if this post were not about a web-app that would probably slow down any tablet it was accessed on.

mikeklaas 16y ago
No, because the site wouldn't be able to consume cpu and memory in a background tab on the ipad.
- calloc 16y ago
  Or there is an actual Twitter app ...
- Semiapies 16y ago
  In that case, wouldn't the "new twitter" view be utterly useless on the iPad, anyway? Couldn't you as easily go to it with a bookmark?
mikecane 16y ago
The "the tacked-on whine" as you call it was referring to having to check for the latest version of this that and the other bloody plug-in. Point being, people just Want Shit To Work.
- Semiapies 16y ago
  Yes, they do...and then they want it to do the Snazzy New Thing that didn't even exist when the thing was built (and integrate with the Wonderful Service and the other Hot Newness). These are the two omnipresent and conflicting goals that people want out of any computer that's even vaguely general-purpose. Wait long enough, and you'll see it happen on iPads, too. ETA: I mean, Hell, we're talking about a page in a web browser. This is an example of both the idea of doing everything simply in a self-contained way that Just Works with no fuss...and the post-1994 reality that people want to make web pages do everything, including building applications out of them and live-updating information. And that's even without involving browser plug-ins.
  - mikecane 16y ago
    Yes, and I do sympathize. This stuff isn't like a light switch that you turn on and have the room all lit up despite whatever changes have been made to the backend with the transmission lines and generators, etc. But sometimes we want it to act that way.
    - Semiapies 16y ago
      I understand.
minalecs 16y ago
Agree that ipad promotion at the end is not really a fair comparison. I'm assuming he's speaking of the twitter app on the ipad. For it to be fair he should install a desktop client for twitter on his pc or possibly tweetdeck and make a comparison.

mikeklaas 16y ago

No, because the site wouldn't be able to consume cpu and memory in a background tab on the ipad.

calloc 16y ago
Or there is an actual Twitter app ...
Semiapies 16y ago
In that case, wouldn't the "new twitter" view be utterly useless on the iPad, anyway? Couldn't you as easily go to it with a bookmark?

mikecane 16y ago

The "the tacked-on whine" as you call it was referring to having to check for the latest version of this that and the other bloody plug-in. Point being, people just Want Shit To Work.

Semiapies 16y ago
Yes, they do...and then they want it to do the Snazzy New Thing that didn't even exist when the thing was built (and integrate with the Wonderful Service and the other Hot Newness). These are the two omnipresent and conflicting goals that people want out of any computer that's even vaguely general-purpose. Wait long enough, and you'll see it happen on iPads, too. ETA: I mean, Hell, we're talking about a page in a web browser. This is an example of both the idea of doing everything simply in a self-contained way that Just Works with no fuss...and the post-1994 reality that people want to make web pages do everything, including building applications out of them and live-updating information. And that's even without involving browser plug-ins.
- mikecane 16y ago
  Yes, and I do sympathize. This stuff isn't like a light switch that you turn on and have the room all lit up despite whatever changes have been made to the backend with the transmission lines and generators, etc. But sometimes we want it to act that way.
  - Semiapies 16y ago
    I understand.

minalecs 16y ago

Agree that ipad promotion at the end is not really a fair comparison. I'm assuming he's speaking of the twitter app on the ipad. For it to be fair he should install a desktop client for twitter on his pc or possibly tweetdeck and make a comparison.