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Really curious to hear why vim cannot replace an IDE or TextMate? Maybe it depends on your very specific use case? I certainly replaced my IDE(s) with vim and

Really curious to hear why vim cannot replace an IDE or TextMate? Maybe it depends on your very specific use case? I certainly replaced my IDE(s) with vim and some plugins. I'm a vim user, certainly one who was alive long after "good GUI editors." My first programming was done in Visual Basic over 20 years ago.

elagost 7y ago
Using Eclipse, any jetbrains stuff, android studio, and xcode (even GNOME builder!) is super helpful for me. They have completion features, a robust set of build tools, and everything in one window with all the controls visible. I love the autocompletion, console, build environment, and when I think about the time it took me to get my .vimrc to where it is now, just for writing text and basic scripts, I shudder to think of how much I'd have to add to make it even close to something like Eclipse. I am hobbyist programmer and a parent, so I don't get a lot of time to do programming these days. When I do I don't like fiddling my half-baked tmux/vim setup. I just wanna write code. So I use IDEs.
- lunchables 7y ago
  >I shudder to think of how much I'd have to add to make it even close to something like Eclipse. It depends on what you use in Eclipse, really. But vim has plugins to do things like autocompletion, there's many ways to access console (:term), etc. It's all done through plugins, you just use whatever plugin manager to add them. It's very simple. >I am hobbyist programmer and a parent, so I don't get a lot of time to do programming these days. When I do I don't like fiddling my half-baked tmux/vim setup. I just wanna write code. So I use IDEs. Me too, but the day or two it took to get vim setup to function as an IDE also meant I had all the power that comes along with vim. For me it is well worth the time investment of a few hours for something I'll use for years and years and be more productive than using Eclipse. And allows me to go between my normal text editor and IDE and share all my keybindings and workflows. I think a good trade off would be something like a vim plugin for Eclipse. PyCharm for example has IdeaVIM which is a plugin that brings a lot of the power of vim to that IDE. I just couldn't give up all the power of vim just for the out-of-the-box IDE features like autocomplete when I can just add them to vim.

elagost 7y ago

Using Eclipse, any jetbrains stuff, android studio, and xcode (even GNOME builder!) is super helpful for me. They have completion features, a robust set of build tools, and everything in one window with all the controls visible. I love the autocompletion, console, build environment, and when I think about the time it took me to get my .vimrc to where it is now, just for writing text and basic scripts, I shudder to think of how much I'd have to add to make it even close to something like Eclipse. I am hobbyist programmer and a parent, so I don't get a lot of time to do programming these days. When I do I don't like fiddling my half-baked tmux/vim setup. I just wanna write code. So I use IDEs.

lunchables 7y ago
>I shudder to think of how much I'd have to add to make it even close to something like Eclipse. It depends on what you use in Eclipse, really. But vim has plugins to do things like autocompletion, there's many ways to access console (:term), etc. It's all done through plugins, you just use whatever plugin manager to add them. It's very simple. >I am hobbyist programmer and a parent, so I don't get a lot of time to do programming these days. When I do I don't like fiddling my half-baked tmux/vim setup. I just wanna write code. So I use IDEs. Me too, but the day or two it took to get vim setup to function as an IDE also meant I had all the power that comes along with vim. For me it is well worth the time investment of a few hours for something I'll use for years and years and be more productive than using Eclipse. And allows me to go between my normal text editor and IDE and share all my keybindings and workflows. I think a good trade off would be something like a vim plugin for Eclipse. PyCharm for example has IdeaVIM which is a plugin that brings a lot of the power of vim to that IDE. I just couldn't give up all the power of vim just for the out-of-the-box IDE features like autocomplete when I can just add them to vim.