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Perhaps we are realizing that both those use cases are not really solving anything real though. The people that knew Ed well enough to care will find out. And

Perhaps we are realizing that both those use cases are not really solving anything real though. The people that knew Ed well enough to care will find out. And the grandparents would probably prefer an extra visit a month than a never ending photo reel. It appears convenient but adds nothing of substance to our lives.

bluGill 7y ago
I don't live close to my parents. I would love to visit more often, but it isn't practical. Pictures are the next best thing so it is what they get.
cptskippy 7y ago
I really detest the "if you find value in x you're living your life wrong" argument.
- solinent 7y ago
  There may be value, but there may be more value in not having your privacy violated.
- infinitezest 7y ago
  I think you may be misapprehending the argument. The value propositions that people cite when talking about why they use Facebook are certainly understandable. However, there is a cost incurred here (ex. questionable usage of private data, externalities imposed on elections, loss of understanding and control over what shows up in your feed, etc.) So yes, there is certainly value there. And it's made even more attractive by the fact that the actual cost is effectively hidden to users since they aren't actually the customers. The argument here is more about whether the cost incurred is actually worth the minor convenience. Tangentially, I've often thought that the added convenience necessarily cheapens the interactions. Things like the automatic birthday reminders have basically outmoded the old "it's the thought that counts" adage.
  - cptskippy 7y ago
    I'm not. You're arguing about whether or not the losses of using Facebook are worth the gains. The other comment wasn't, it was asserting that Facebook is not worth it under any circumstance. They are both depriving the user of freedom to choose to compromise their privacy for convenience and asserting that the user is inherently flawed because they even thought they had such a choice. They aren't just arguing that the individual should reconsider their decision to use Facebook, they're arguing that they need to reevaluate their life.
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bluGill 7y ago

I don't live close to my parents. I would love to visit more often, but it isn't practical. Pictures are the next best thing so it is what they get.

cptskippy 7y ago

I really detest the "if you find value in x you're living your life wrong" argument.

solinent 7y ago
There may be value, but there may be more value in not having your privacy violated.
infinitezest 7y ago
I think you may be misapprehending the argument. The value propositions that people cite when talking about why they use Facebook are certainly understandable. However, there is a cost incurred here (ex. questionable usage of private data, externalities imposed on elections, loss of understanding and control over what shows up in your feed, etc.) So yes, there is certainly value there. And it's made even more attractive by the fact that the actual cost is effectively hidden to users since they aren't actually the customers. The argument here is more about whether the cost incurred is actually worth the minor convenience. Tangentially, I've often thought that the added convenience necessarily cheapens the interactions. Things like the automatic birthday reminders have basically outmoded the old "it's the thought that counts" adage.
- cptskippy 7y ago
  I'm not. You're arguing about whether or not the losses of using Facebook are worth the gains. The other comment wasn't, it was asserting that Facebook is not worth it under any circumstance. They are both depriving the user of freedom to choose to compromise their privacy for convenience and asserting that the user is inherently flawed because they even thought they had such a choice. They aren't just arguing that the individual should reconsider their decision to use Facebook, they're arguing that they need to reevaluate their life.
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