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> You don't? You like people not giving a shit and parking in disabled spots/ramps, double-parking everywhere, civil services closing at noon because they have

> You don't? You like people not giving a shit and parking in disabled spots/ramps, double-parking everywhere, civil services closing at noon because they have "work to do", employers paying employees starvation wages because it saves them a euro, everyone evading taxes because their pocket is more important than schools and hospitals, contractors padding their invoices by 200% to pocket the money from EU investments, etc etc? So basically just like everywhere else in the world. You ever been to a Walmart parking lot? Or a DMV? Sounds like maybe you are the one who has never lived anywhere else. This is called fallen human nature, and it is everywhere.

StavrosK 7y ago
> So basically just like everywhere else in the world. > You ever been to a Walmart parking lot? Or a DMV? Have you? Because we visited very different places, if so. Nobody in the US dares to roll past a stop sign, let alone double-park. Merely the fact that you've said this makes me doubt you've ever even been to the US.
BeetleB 7y ago
>So basically just like everywhere else in the world. You ever been to a Walmart parking lot? Or a DMV? Oh wow. You really do come across as not having left wherever you live. Let me explain: I didn't always live in N America. I have quite a few friends from those times who've only lived in poor and/or corrupt countries. And the only people who say "it's like that everywhere!" are them. I've known multiple people who've visited Western Europe/US and they said "I would never have believed that people could park and drive in such a civil manner"[1], which is effectively what you are saying. As for Walmart/DMV: I've never seen anyone double park in any large Walmart-like store. Once at a DMV years ago someone parked improperly. The DMV promptly got traffic police to give him a ticket, and announced it loudly so everyone sitting there could hear it: "Congratulations! The driver of vehicle X with license plate Y has just gotten a parking ticket!" I have seen double parking in apartment complexes. It's a risky game, though. Probably over half the population isn't going to wait to sort things out - they are going to call the towing trucks immediately. I had a car towed for parking in my spot, and someone had my car towed when I parked in their spot. [1] Even though it's not that great in parts of the US, it's an order of magnitude more than where they've lived. Another comment: "What is it about Americans that even when the parking lot is empty, they still park between the lines?"

StavrosK 7y ago

> So basically just like everywhere else in the world. > You ever been to a Walmart parking lot? Or a DMV? Have you? Because we visited very different places, if so. Nobody in the US dares to roll past a stop sign, let alone double-park. Merely the fact that you've said this makes me doubt you've ever even been to the US.

BeetleB 7y ago

>So basically just like everywhere else in the world. You ever been to a Walmart parking lot? Or a DMV? Oh wow. You really do come across as not having left wherever you live. Let me explain: I didn't always live in N America. I have quite a few friends from those times who've only lived in poor and/or corrupt countries. And the only people who say "it's like that everywhere!" are them. I've known multiple people who've visited Western Europe/US and they said "I would never have believed that people could park and drive in such a civil manner"[1], which is effectively what you are saying. As for Walmart/DMV: I've never seen anyone double park in any large Walmart-like store. Once at a DMV years ago someone parked improperly. The DMV promptly got traffic police to give him a ticket, and announced it loudly so everyone sitting there could hear it: "Congratulations! The driver of vehicle X with license plate Y has just gotten a parking ticket!" I have seen double parking in apartment complexes. It's a risky game, though. Probably over half the population isn't going to wait to sort things out - they are going to call the towing trucks immediately. I had a car towed for parking in my spot, and someone had my car towed when I parked in their spot. [1] Even though it's not that great in parts of the US, it's an order of magnitude more than where they've lived. Another comment: "What is it about Americans that even when the parking lot is empty, they still park between the lines?"