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Who in the hell actually hates Greek culture? It's the best part about Greece! No re malaka, we just leave for the money and jobs, but we would all come back if

Who in the hell actually hates Greek culture? It's the best part about Greece! No re malaka, we just leave for the money and jobs, but we would all come back if we could have the same economic opportunity and environment. A true Greek loves their country and hurts to see what it has become, and would do anything to see it prosper, even with all the bad, Greeks have been able to consistently maintain the separation between its people and the corruption that is in power.

StavrosK 7y ago
You don't? You like people not giving a shit and parking in disabled spots/ramps, double-parking everywhere, civil services closing at noon because they have "work to do", employers paying employees starvation wages because it saves them a euro, everyone evading taxes because their pocket is more important than schools and hospitals, contractors padding their invoices by 200% to pocket the money from EU investments, etc etc? I'll venture a guess and say you've never lived abroad? > A true Greek How do you even type that without expecting to be linked to Wikipedia?
- tyri_kai_psomi 7y ago
  > You don't? You like people not giving a shit and parking in disabled spots/ramps, double-parking everywhere, civil services closing at noon because they have "work to do", employers paying employees starvation wages because it saves them a euro, everyone evading taxes because their pocket is more important than schools and hospitals, contractors padding their invoices by 200% to pocket the money from EU investments, etc etc? So basically just like everywhere else in the world. You ever been to a Walmart parking lot? Or a DMV? Sounds like maybe you are the one who has never lived anywhere else. This is called fallen human nature, and it is everywhere.
  - StavrosK 7y ago
    > So basically just like everywhere else in the world. > You ever been to a Walmart parking lot? Or a DMV? Have you? Because we visited very different places, if so. Nobody in the US dares to roll past a stop sign, let alone double-park. Merely the fact that you've said this makes me doubt you've ever even been to the US.
  - BeetleB 7y ago
    >So basically just like everywhere else in the world. You ever been to a Walmart parking lot? Or a DMV? Oh wow. You really do come across as not having left wherever you live. Let me explain: I didn't always live in N America. I have quite a few friends from those times who've only lived in poor and/or corrupt countries. And the only people who say "it's like that everywhere!" are them. I've known multiple people who've visited Western Europe/US and they said "I would never have believed that people could park and drive in such a civil manner"[1], which is effectively what you are saying. As for Walmart/DMV: I've never seen anyone double park in any large Walmart-like store. Once at a DMV years ago someone parked improperly. The DMV promptly got traffic police to give him a ticket, and announced it loudly so everyone sitting there could hear it: "Congratulations! The driver of vehicle X with license plate Y has just gotten a parking ticket!" I have seen double parking in apartment complexes. It's a risky game, though. Probably over half the population isn't going to wait to sort things out - they are going to call the towing trucks immediately. I had a car towed for parking in my spot, and someone had my car towed when I parked in their spot. [1] Even though it's not that great in parts of the US, it's an order of magnitude more than where they've lived. Another comment: "What is it about Americans that even when the parking lot is empty, they still park between the lines?"

StavrosK 7y ago

You don't? You like people not giving a shit and parking in disabled spots/ramps, double-parking everywhere, civil services closing at noon because they have "work to do", employers paying employees starvation wages because it saves them a euro, everyone evading taxes because their pocket is more important than schools and hospitals, contractors padding their invoices by 200% to pocket the money from EU investments, etc etc? I'll venture a guess and say you've never lived abroad? > A true Greek How do you even type that without expecting to be linked to Wikipedia?

tyri_kai_psomi 7y ago
> You don't? You like people not giving a shit and parking in disabled spots/ramps, double-parking everywhere, civil services closing at noon because they have "work to do", employers paying employees starvation wages because it saves them a euro, everyone evading taxes because their pocket is more important than schools and hospitals, contractors padding their invoices by 200% to pocket the money from EU investments, etc etc? So basically just like everywhere else in the world. You ever been to a Walmart parking lot? Or a DMV? Sounds like maybe you are the one who has never lived anywhere else. This is called fallen human nature, and it is everywhere.
- StavrosK 7y ago
  > So basically just like everywhere else in the world. > You ever been to a Walmart parking lot? Or a DMV? Have you? Because we visited very different places, if so. Nobody in the US dares to roll past a stop sign, let alone double-park. Merely the fact that you've said this makes me doubt you've ever even been to the US.
- BeetleB 7y ago
  >So basically just like everywhere else in the world. You ever been to a Walmart parking lot? Or a DMV? Oh wow. You really do come across as not having left wherever you live. Let me explain: I didn't always live in N America. I have quite a few friends from those times who've only lived in poor and/or corrupt countries. And the only people who say "it's like that everywhere!" are them. I've known multiple people who've visited Western Europe/US and they said "I would never have believed that people could park and drive in such a civil manner"[1], which is effectively what you are saying. As for Walmart/DMV: I've never seen anyone double park in any large Walmart-like store. Once at a DMV years ago someone parked improperly. The DMV promptly got traffic police to give him a ticket, and announced it loudly so everyone sitting there could hear it: "Congratulations! The driver of vehicle X with license plate Y has just gotten a parking ticket!" I have seen double parking in apartment complexes. It's a risky game, though. Probably over half the population isn't going to wait to sort things out - they are going to call the towing trucks immediately. I had a car towed for parking in my spot, and someone had my car towed when I parked in their spot. [1] Even though it's not that great in parts of the US, it's an order of magnitude more than where they've lived. Another comment: "What is it about Americans that even when the parking lot is empty, they still park between the lines?"