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I don’t have to admit that, because it’s not true. If women doing whatever they want with their bodies (be that showing them off or covering them up) isn’t femi

I don’t have to admit that, because it’s not true. If women doing whatever they want with their bodies (be that showing them off or covering them up) isn’t feminism, then I don’t know what is.

rr-geil-j 7y ago
I personally understand both sides of the argument but I would like to be a devil's advocate this time and provide an opinion similar to the OP: The analogy of this will be like someone who declares that he is the master of his own fate and has freedom to do whatever he wants. Then he proceeds to slave away in a dead-end job with non-existent autonomy.
- jstummbillig 7y ago
  What argument? The original commentator simply displays a deep misunderstanding of what feminism is about. Feminism (in this case) is being able to pose naked as a woman, in the same way you would be as a man and not being treated any differently for it. Case in point: Most people wouldn't suggest it's anti-masculism if a male was posing naked. So then don't do it with females. There you go, feminism.
lm28469 7y ago
To me the problem arise when you start debating an issue, for example: "should people using twitch/IG/FB for soft-core porn be allowed ?", and the only argument for it is "you can't tell me what to do because it's misogynistic". Feminism degenerated in that weird shapeless notion that many people use to justify very arguable things as "it's just feminism mate, stop being oppressive". It's very hard to tell if someone is really supporting women rights or hiding behind it for personal interests, especially when money is at stake. At the end of the day you draw the line where you want, exposing yourself online for ad money doesn't rank very high on my scale, no matter the gender, and you'll be hard pressed to convince me it helps the women's cause. > If women doing whatever they want ... This is what 6 years old kids want, you're supposed to grow out of the "let me do whatever I want and never judge me" mentality. As soon as you willingly expose yourself online you give away your "don't judge me" card.
mac01021 7y ago
I tend to agree with you but the GP may feel that we live in a society that has decided showing off one's body is the only way for a woman to get attention and succeed and that any feminist who realizes it should try not to go along with the trend.

rr-geil-j 7y ago

I personally understand both sides of the argument but I would like to be a devil's advocate this time and provide an opinion similar to the OP: The analogy of this will be like someone who declares that he is the master of his own fate and has freedom to do whatever he wants. Then he proceeds to slave away in a dead-end job with non-existent autonomy.

jstummbillig 7y ago
What argument? The original commentator simply displays a deep misunderstanding of what feminism is about. Feminism (in this case) is being able to pose naked as a woman, in the same way you would be as a man and not being treated any differently for it. Case in point: Most people wouldn't suggest it's anti-masculism if a male was posing naked. So then don't do it with females. There you go, feminism.

lm28469 7y ago

To me the problem arise when you start debating an issue, for example: "should people using twitch/IG/FB for soft-core porn be allowed ?", and the only argument for it is "you can't tell me what to do because it's misogynistic". Feminism degenerated in that weird shapeless notion that many people use to justify very arguable things as "it's just feminism mate, stop being oppressive". It's very hard to tell if someone is really supporting women rights or hiding behind it for personal interests, especially when money is at stake. At the end of the day you draw the line where you want, exposing yourself online for ad money doesn't rank very high on my scale, no matter the gender, and you'll be hard pressed to convince me it helps the women's cause. > If women doing whatever they want ... This is what 6 years old kids want, you're supposed to grow out of the "let me do whatever I want and never judge me" mentality. As soon as you willingly expose yourself online you give away your "don't judge me" card.

mac01021 7y ago

I tend to agree with you but the GP may feel that we live in a society that has decided showing off one's body is the only way for a woman to get attention and succeed and that any feminist who realizes it should try not to go along with the trend.