> China has not yet brought down the hammer on Hongkong, and they have not removed property rights and the overall freedom. Thank you! > Sadly, these protests

> China has not yet brought down the hammer on Hongkong, and they have not removed property rights and the overall freedom. Thank you! > Sadly, these protests are more likely to bring the dictatorship closer. That's my fear as well. I'm all for peaceful protests, but I'm afraid the violent protesters are signing the death wish of freedom in Hong Kong. > Then you have the simple fact that China is not a democracy, it's an oppressive surveillance one-party state. (I'll ignore the "oppressive surveillance" you snuck in there, as that's not an exclusive to China, and many democracies are much further along in that regard.) And that makes China automatically bad...how? China has on balance done less evil and more good than most of the democracies of the world. Can we be honest with ourselves and keep an open mind? > All of the democratic world has a certain moral obligation to either attempt to transform or to oppose China. China certainly should be kept in check by fellow world powers. But let's not get carried away with mindless ideology and dogma.