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As a night owl, I have to think that at least some of those people are just showing up in the morning because that’s what’s expected, and then spend most of the

by orev 7y ago

As a night owl, I have to think that at least some of those people are just showing up in the morning because that’s what’s expected, and then spend most of the early part of the day spinning their wheels until their brains kick in later and can actually get something done.

fouc 7y ago
Some of my most productive days were going into the office at 5 or 6am and getting in a solid 3 hours of coding in before everyone else showed up. Naturally I'd leave earlier (3pm-4pm), thanks to flex-time.
- wodenokoto 7y ago
  10-11 hours is a normal length for a working day?
  - fouc 7y ago
    I didn't feel the need to do it more than a few times a month if I felt like getting a real head start on a particular problem. Plus I'd probably take a longer lunch or start socializing in the afternoon. Average actual work time still worked out to 7.5hours/day, some days more, some days less.
m463 7y ago
What is important, is to figure out your own personal rhythm and if it defies convention, then f*ck convention. I find I probably get an order of magnitude more work done from 8-10 pm compared to 8-10 am, all other things being equal. Other folks have different drums they march to. One book I recommend is "the war of art". The small one-page section called "what I do" is illustrative. He's a writer and describes his daily routine. He starts typing away in earnest about 10:30, and probably 4 hours later he starts making typos, which he realizes is the point of diminishing returns and calls it a day.
- bernardlunn 7y ago
  And others are Larks, wake up at 5 raring to go
- orev 7y ago
  That’s easy to say, but unless you’re self employed, that’s an entirely impossible approach to take. Companies expect you to be in the office at a certain time, and that’s not an unreasonable request as most people need to work in teams when everyone else is also available. The ability and flexibility to work like this is very much a Silicon-Valley-only thing, and you can’t have a meaningful conversation assuming everyone can do that.
bernardlunn 7y ago
I recall managing somebody like that. He would come to work at noon. I was cool with that but had a boss who insisted I dock his pay if he did not come to work at 9. Welcome to Dilbert!

by orev 7y ago

fouc 7y ago

Some of my most productive days were going into the office at 5 or 6am and getting in a solid 3 hours of coding in before everyone else showed up. Naturally I'd leave earlier (3pm-4pm), thanks to flex-time.

wodenokoto 7y ago
10-11 hours is a normal length for a working day?
- fouc 7y ago
  I didn't feel the need to do it more than a few times a month if I felt like getting a real head start on a particular problem. Plus I'd probably take a longer lunch or start socializing in the afternoon. Average actual work time still worked out to 7.5hours/day, some days more, some days less.

m463 7y ago

What is important, is to figure out your own personal rhythm and if it defies convention, then f*ck convention. I find I probably get an order of magnitude more work done from 8-10 pm compared to 8-10 am, all other things being equal. Other folks have different drums they march to. One book I recommend is "the war of art". The small one-page section called "what I do" is illustrative. He's a writer and describes his daily routine. He starts typing away in earnest about 10:30, and probably 4 hours later he starts making typos, which he realizes is the point of diminishing returns and calls it a day.

bernardlunn 7y ago
And others are Larks, wake up at 5 raring to go
orev 7y ago
That’s easy to say, but unless you’re self employed, that’s an entirely impossible approach to take. Companies expect you to be in the office at a certain time, and that’s not an unreasonable request as most people need to work in teams when everyone else is also available. The ability and flexibility to work like this is very much a Silicon-Valley-only thing, and you can’t have a meaningful conversation assuming everyone can do that.

bernardlunn 7y ago

I recall managing somebody like that. He would come to work at noon. I was cool with that but had a boss who insisted I dock his pay if he did not come to work at 9. Welcome to Dilbert!