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Why the implication that devs/engineers who have such technical expertise "know it's a bad idea"? There are plenty of devs and engineers who would have no moral

Why the implication that devs/engineers who have such technical expertise "know it's a bad idea"? There are plenty of devs and engineers who would have no moral issue with mass data collection and analytics. You don't magically become a paragon of morality just because you got a CS degree. Just ask Zuckerberg.

Trisell 7y ago
I’m working at a company and they want to do a massive amount of logging from our companies IOS app. Basically log everything in the name of security. I made the statement today what does legal think about the data we would be now storing? It has user locations, gps coordinates, all the other fun stuff you can get from a users phone. They all looked at me like I was crazy for even asking that question. And I don’t think a single person in the room the devs included had even though about the personal data we were going to be able to collect. And if we SHOULD be collecting it.
- janvidar 7y ago
  If your company does business in the EU, or has users within the EU then the GDPR kicks in. The legal department would care about that.
mulmen 7y ago
To be fair Zuckerberg didn’t get a CS degree. Your point still stands of course.
- thaumasiotes 7y ago
  To be even more fair, I feel pretty sure Zuckerberg would be happy to agree that "you don't magically become a paragon of morality just because you got a CS degree".
  - mulmen 7y ago
    I’m not sure why anyone cares about Zuckerberg’s opinions on morality. The point that a CS degree does not impart a higher moral code is not controversial. My comment only pointed out that Zuckerberg was a bad example because he doesn’t have a CS degree.
    - thaumasiotes 7y ago
      And my comment pointed out that your parent comment didn't present Zuckerberg as an example, but as a source of support. (Does that make sense? No, he'd make more sense as an example. But that's not what the comment said.)
      - mulmen 7y ago
        Yes, I see now, thanks for pointing that out. The implication being Zuckerberg relies on people with CS degrees even if he himself does not have one.

Trisell 7y ago

I’m working at a company and they want to do a massive amount of logging from our companies IOS app. Basically log everything in the name of security. I made the statement today what does legal think about the data we would be now storing? It has user locations, gps coordinates, all the other fun stuff you can get from a users phone. They all looked at me like I was crazy for even asking that question. And I don’t think a single person in the room the devs included had even though about the personal data we were going to be able to collect. And if we SHOULD be collecting it.

janvidar 7y ago
If your company does business in the EU, or has users within the EU then the GDPR kicks in. The legal department would care about that.

mulmen 7y ago

To be fair Zuckerberg didn’t get a CS degree. Your point still stands of course.

thaumasiotes 7y ago
To be even more fair, I feel pretty sure Zuckerberg would be happy to agree that "you don't magically become a paragon of morality just because you got a CS degree".
- mulmen 7y ago
  I’m not sure why anyone cares about Zuckerberg’s opinions on morality. The point that a CS degree does not impart a higher moral code is not controversial. My comment only pointed out that Zuckerberg was a bad example because he doesn’t have a CS degree.
  - thaumasiotes 7y ago
    And my comment pointed out that your parent comment didn't present Zuckerberg as an example, but as a source of support. (Does that make sense? No, he'd make more sense as an example. But that's not what the comment said.)
    - mulmen 7y ago
      Yes, I see now, thanks for pointing that out. The implication being Zuckerberg relies on people with CS degrees even if he himself does not have one.