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These kinds of stats are basically impossible to produce while children of alumni get to skip the queue and get in much more easily. If what you say is true, t

These kinds of stats are basically impossible to produce while children of alumni get to skip the queue and get in much more easily. If what you say is true, the problem seems easily fixable -- makes children of alumni enter through the normal channels, and not mention their parents, and if they will get in if they deserve to.

bedhead 7y ago
No university would ever do that (effectively anonymize applications) because donations would plummet to almost zero. If there are no perks - one of the big ones being your kids have a good chance of being admitted - what's the point?
- CJefferson 7y ago
  No US University. This type of thing doesn't happen in the UK (although I will admit, it wouldn't shock me if a few similar things happen on the quiet).
cloudwizard 7y ago
only 26 percent of the white athletes, legacies, dean’s listers, and faculty children Harvard admitted between 2009 and 2014 would still make the cut based on, say, their grades. https://slate.com/business/2019/09/harvard-admissions-affirmative-action-white-students-legacy-athletes-donors.html https://slate.com/business/2019/09/harvard-admissions-affirm...
wolco 7y ago
The parents who buy there way in probably had the same done to them. If you have money you are more likely to avoid the poorer middle class kids who got in based on grades so marriages would be between two people who bought there way in because the other students are less likely to socialize over study.
tzs 7y ago
> These kinds of stats are basically impossible to produce while children of alumni get to skip the queue and get in much more easily Only some schools take into account legacy status, so wouldn't it be possible to do comparisons between schools that do and schools that do not to get those kind of stats? Many students apply to the same school their parents went to even if being the child of alumni does not give them a boost. Of the top 10 universities in the world, according to US News & World Reports 2018 list, 4 take into account legacy status (Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, and Stanford) [1]. 6 do not (MIT, UC Berkeley, Oxford, Caltech, Cambridge, University of Washington). [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/16/top-universities-that-do-not-consider-legacy-when-admitting-students.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/16/top-universities-that-do-not...

bedhead 7y ago

No university would ever do that (effectively anonymize applications) because donations would plummet to almost zero. If there are no perks - one of the big ones being your kids have a good chance of being admitted - what's the point?

CJefferson 7y ago
No US University. This type of thing doesn't happen in the UK (although I will admit, it wouldn't shock me if a few similar things happen on the quiet).

cloudwizard 7y ago

only 26 percent of the white athletes, legacies, dean’s listers, and faculty children Harvard admitted between 2009 and 2014 would still make the cut based on, say, their grades. https://slate.com/business/2019/09/harvard-admissions-affirmative-action-white-students-legacy-athletes-donors.html https://slate.com/business/2019/09/harvard-admissions-affirm...

wolco 7y ago

The parents who buy there way in probably had the same done to them. If you have money you are more likely to avoid the poorer middle class kids who got in based on grades so marriages would be between two people who bought there way in because the other students are less likely to socialize over study.

tzs 7y ago

> These kinds of stats are basically impossible to produce while children of alumni get to skip the queue and get in much more easily Only some schools take into account legacy status, so wouldn't it be possible to do comparisons between schools that do and schools that do not to get those kind of stats? Many students apply to the same school their parents went to even if being the child of alumni does not give them a boost. Of the top 10 universities in the world, according to US News & World Reports 2018 list, 4 take into account legacy status (Harvard, Princeton, Columbia, and Stanford) [1]. 6 do not (MIT, UC Berkeley, Oxford, Caltech, Cambridge, University of Washington). [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/16/top-universities-that-do-not-consider-legacy-when-admitting-students.html https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/16/top-universities-that-do-not...