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I love how the title and the first sentence of the article are completely at odds. The judge said that it was ok that Harvard discriminated not that they didn't

I love how the title and the first sentence of the article are completely at odds. The judge said that it was ok that Harvard discriminated not that they didn't do it.

gruez 7y ago
Yeah, the WSJ article's headline seems more accurate "Judge Determines Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions Policy Is Constitutional (wsj.com)" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21129654 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21129654
- AdrianB1 7y ago
  Also was the bus seating 50 years ago, as judges confirmed at that time :(
sieabahlpark 7y ago
HN becoming the new Reddit. The title should be edited because it's blatantly false
iagovar 7y ago
Another instance of the press trying to convey its ideology in a subtle way? Most people don't read the body of the news (probably not even the NYT news), as you can witness recurrently on social networks or reddit. On the other side of the Atlantic these things are also beginning to happen. In the name of positive discrimination there are collectives, larger or smaller, that are effectively discriminated against, and in a very tangible way. In Spain the cases that have been most discussed are about selection processes for public officials, where women have easier physical tests, and in some cases the simple fact of being a woman already gives you points. As far as I know, we have not yet reached the point of favouring certain nationalities or ethical groups, but as all these trends from the USA end up arriving in Spain, I have no doubt that sooner or later it will be on the table. One thing that worries me a lot is seeing how being against these measures seems to be interpreted as a conservative position. I am honestly quite surprised that we have reached this point with so little opposition from the institutions.
- zdragnar 7y ago
  > . I am honestly quite surprised that we have reached this point with so little opposition from the institutions. Over here, institutions (primarily academic, though also some government administrations) have been the ones leading the charge. 2004 at a university was the first time I'd heard that you can't be racist against a white person in America, and at the time, it was reasonable to debate that position. Now, if you don't agree with it, you stay quiet unless you want to be labelled a conservative bigot who is too simple to understand these things, both in universities and often in public as well. Just recently, the city of Portland decided to remove urinals from and make all bathrooms on several floors of a remodelled government building any-gendered. I suspect that people will end up avoiding those and going to other floors for now, but by the sound of it, they want to eventually remove all gendered bathrooms. My favorite quote from the Chief Administrative Officer was "I am convinced that this is the right way to ensure success as your employer"

I love how the title and the first sentence of the article are completely at odds. The judge said that it was ok that Harvard discriminated not that they didn't do it.

gruez 7y ago

Yeah, the WSJ article's headline seems more accurate "Judge Determines Harvard's Race-Conscious Admissions Policy Is Constitutional (wsj.com)" https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21129654 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21129654

AdrianB1 7y ago
Also was the bus seating 50 years ago, as judges confirmed at that time :(

sieabahlpark 7y ago

HN becoming the new Reddit. The title should be edited because it's blatantly false

iagovar 7y ago

Another instance of the press trying to convey its ideology in a subtle way? Most people don't read the body of the news (probably not even the NYT news), as you can witness recurrently on social networks or reddit. On the other side of the Atlantic these things are also beginning to happen. In the name of positive discrimination there are collectives, larger or smaller, that are effectively discriminated against, and in a very tangible way. In Spain the cases that have been most discussed are about selection processes for public officials, where women have easier physical tests, and in some cases the simple fact of being a woman already gives you points. As far as I know, we have not yet reached the point of favouring certain nationalities or ethical groups, but as all these trends from the USA end up arriving in Spain, I have no doubt that sooner or later it will be on the table. One thing that worries me a lot is seeing how being against these measures seems to be interpreted as a conservative position. I am honestly quite surprised that we have reached this point with so little opposition from the institutions.

zdragnar 7y ago
> . I am honestly quite surprised that we have reached this point with so little opposition from the institutions. Over here, institutions (primarily academic, though also some government administrations) have been the ones leading the charge. 2004 at a university was the first time I'd heard that you can't be racist against a white person in America, and at the time, it was reasonable to debate that position. Now, if you don't agree with it, you stay quiet unless you want to be labelled a conservative bigot who is too simple to understand these things, both in universities and often in public as well. Just recently, the city of Portland decided to remove urinals from and make all bathrooms on several floors of a remodelled government building any-gendered. I suspect that people will end up avoiding those and going to other floors for now, but by the sound of it, they want to eventually remove all gendered bathrooms. My favorite quote from the Chief Administrative Officer was "I am convinced that this is the right way to ensure success as your employer"