yeah, it kinda makes this even more pessimistic. I recently spoke to someone about the quality his education at the TU Dresden back in the GDR. He wasn't very c

yeah, it kinda makes this even more pessimistic. I recently spoke to someone about the quality his education at the TU Dresden back in the GDR. He wasn't very critical and said he enjoyed a good mechanical engineering education there. This means that even during communism and towards the collapse the good engineering culture persisted. A whole nation and their entire economic system could collapse and the good engineering tradition continues. If we assume that a bad tradition is equally persistent, then we have a problem in souther italy that even the collapse of the economic system and whole state would not necessarily change.