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Hi, anti-vaxxer here. It's never really been about "the mercury". Its about having a perfectly normal child that suddenly "regresses" after shots, be it through
by sam36 7y ago
Hi, anti-vaxxer here. It's never really been about "the mercury". Its about having a perfectly normal child that suddenly "regresses" after shots, be it through autism, sudden seizures, new allergies, or even death.
Don't take my word for it, the inserts themselves state most of the risks[0] from death all the way to shedding live bio-engineered virus onto the immunocompromised (so much for that argument). Plus part of the deal that the government had after removing vaccine manufactures for any liability for injury or deaths was to have a "database" of reported injuries for the public to analyze the safety for themselves[1]
So you see, we are not crazy, we are people that have children and we research what we believe is best for them. Following one's conscious is a one of the ideas allowed by our founding fathers. This image sums it up best: https://i.imgur.com/PdsJLLD.png https://i.imgur.com/PdsJLLD.png
[0]:https://vaccine.guide/ https://vaccine.guide/
[1]: https://tinyurl.com/y6ap37qo https://tinyurl.com/y6ap37qo
- TacticalTable 7y agoThis is anecdotal scaremongering. There is no correlation between vaccines and any of the side-effects you've claimed. This has been debunked repeatedly. Autism, seizures, and allergies are often associated with vaccines because they are not visible birth defects, but are instead discovered.
- gus_massa 7y agoAbout the last image you linked: Even if you agree that the parents can make (wrong) decisions that put their kids at risks avoiding vaccines, it doesn't force you to make the same decisions. So what is your reason to not vaccinate your children? (Moreover, if some people is not vaccinating their children, it makes me more alert not to skip/delay the vaccines of my children.) (It's a problem for the children that can't get the vaccines for medical reasons.) About the last link [1]: Note that there are 400 cases in 40 years, so it's like 10 case per year. Probably the trip to the hospital and back is more dangerous. Also, the first case looks like a sepsis that is almost surely not related to the vaccine. The last one in the page says that the diagnosis was "H. Influenza meningitis;" that is unrelated to the vaccine. Some other cases are not so clear or have previous illness. Some look like an allergic reaction that perhaps may be caused by the vaccine, but I only look at them for a few seconds and I'm not a medical doctor. Do you have a link to a list of cases that are filtered to exclude the cases that are obviously not caused by the vaccine?
- sam36 7y agohttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3878266/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3878266/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25377033 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25377033 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24995277 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24995277 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12145534 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12145534 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22099159 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3364648/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3364648/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17454560 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17454560 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19106436 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19106436 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3774468/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3774468/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3697751/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3697751/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21299355 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21299355 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21907498 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21907498 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339848 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11339848 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17674242 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17674242 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993250 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15780490 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15780490 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12933322 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12933322 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16870260 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16870260 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19043938 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19043938 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12142947 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12142947 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24675092 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24675092 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25198681 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25198681 http://www.scribd.com/doc/220807175/124-Research-Papers-Supporting-the-Vaccine-Autism-Link#scribd http://www.scribd.com/doc/220807175/124-Research-Papers-Supp... Vaccines caused autism here in this federal court case http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/ABELL.ZELLER073008.pdf http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/A... And here page 2 http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/CAMPBELL-SMITH.MOJABI-PROFFER.12.13.2012.pdf http://www.uscfc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/C... And here - https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2012vv0423-91-0 https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2012vv... Here are 83 cases reviewed by lawyers http://digitalcommons.pace.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1681&context=pelr http://digitalcommons.pace.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1... Oh look here's a dead kid compensated https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2010vv0103-145-0 https://ecf.cofc.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2010vv... If you ever need a lawyer http://www.mctlawyers.com/vaccine-injury/cases/ http://www.mctlawyers.com/vaccine-injury/cases/ Here are 127 separate studies linking vaccines and autism. https://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/220807175/124-Research-Papers-Supporting-the-Vaccine-Autism-Link https://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/220807175/124-Research-Pap... Read this about Hannah Brusewitz case and how she was harmed by DTP https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/cert/09-152 https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/cert/09-152 Supreme Court Unavoidably Unsafe http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/10pdf/09-152.pdf A dose-response relationship between organic mercury exposure from thimerosal-containing vaccines and neurodevelopmental disorders. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25198681 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25198681 Relative trends in hospitalizations and mortality among infants by the number of vaccine doses and age, based on the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), 1990-2010. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22531966 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22531966 Is infant immunization a risk factor for childhood asthma or allergy? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9345669 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9345669 Infant mortality rates regressed against number of vaccine doses routinely given: Is there a biochemical or synergistic toxicity? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/ Infection, vaccines and other environmental triggers of autoimmunity. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16126512 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16126512 DTP with or after measles vaccination is associated with increased in-hospital mortality in Guinea-Bissau. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17092614# http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17092614# Measles outbreak in a vaccinated school population: epidemiology, chains of transmission and the role of vaccine failures. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1646939/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1646939/ A positive association found between autism prevalence and childhood vaccination uptake across the U.S. population. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21623535 Hepatitis B vaccination of male neonates and autism diagnosis, NHIS 1997-2002. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170 Abnormal measles-mumps-rubella antibodies and CNS autoimmunity in children with autism. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12145534 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12145534 The plausibility of a role for mercury in the etiology of autism: a cellular perspective http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3173748/ http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3173748/ Detection of RNA of Mumps Virus during an Outbreak in a Population with a High Level of Measles, Mumps, and Rubella Vaccine Coverage http://jcm.asm.org/content/46/3/1101.long http://jcm.asm.org/content/46/3/1101.long A case series of children with apparent mercury toxic encephalopathies manifesting with clinical symptoms of regressive autistic disorders. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17454560 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17454560 Aluminum in the central nervous system (CNS): toxicity in humans and animals, vaccine adjuvants, and autoimmunity. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23609067 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23609067 Unvaccinated Children are Healthier http://www.mednat.org/vaccini/dannivacc_study.pdf http://www.mednat.org/vaccini/dannivacc_study.pdf Self-Organized Criticality Theory of Autoimmunity http://www.plosone.org/.../10.1371/journal.pone.0008382 http://www.plosone.org/.../10.1371/journal.pone.0008382 Combination MMRV vaccine linked with 2-fold risk of seizures http://www.eurekalert.org/pub.../2010-06/kp-cmv062310.php http://www.eurekalert.org/pub.../2010-06/kp-cmv062310.php Impact of environmental factors on the prevalence of autistic disorder after 1979 http://www.ms.academicjournals.org/.../article1409245960.. http://www.ms.academicjournals.org/.../article1409245960... 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- driverdan 7y agoCorrelation is not causation. There is not a single shred of credible evidence to support causation.
- SubiculumCode 7y agoVaccines do not cause autism. Regression events are likely due to genes being expressed (or failing to be expressed) at certain critical periods during development under which important neurodevelopmental processes are controlled e.g. synaptogenesis. This is a case of correlation does not equal causation.