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> Topics including but not limited to: biological self-determination (modification, design), geo-engineering, transhumanism, the abolition of college, transgre
by Chris2048 7y ago
> Topics including but not limited to: biological self-determination (modification, design), geo-engineering, transhumanism, the abolition of college, transgressive media, sex, the softer side of doomsday prepping, the nature of conspiracy, the benefits of starvation, constitutional monarchy (what?!), revisionist demography, immortality, drag culture, and building nations
Nothing actually Heretical then.
- defen 7y ago"Heretical" is not an objective measure - it's used in reference to an existing belief system. I suspect most "normies" would be shocked or at least suspicious of those ideas.
- Chris2048 7y agoI would define "heretical" as "risky to talk about" - as in people will target you; Things that people simply dislike talking about are more "unpopular" or "perverse".
- pjc50 7y agoMost of those I'd class as "left-wing" or "futurist/transhumanist" .. except for "constitutional monarchy". That suggests it's probably going to be Menicus Moldbug and a bunch of "dark enlightenment"/"alt-right" people there. But I can't see how they wouldn't clash horribly with whoever they've got in to discuss e.g. drag culture. Edit: ah, of course it's going to be someone who's against drag, isn't it?
- Chris2048 7y agoI doubt it will be alt-righters. Instead, it will be left-to-middle pushing mainstream left-to-middle ideas as if they are "heretical".
- TeMPOraL 7y agoWell, for any of the topics listed I can recall an idea I've seen, mentioning which would get one ridiculed and in some cases probably Twitter-mobbed, so I don't see how they can't get actual heretical ideas there. (Geoengineering is probably the least heretical on the list, but for some reason there's apparently something close to an UN moratorium on the topic. Which is sad, because I'm not having much hopes we'll survive this century without some large-scale intervention to Earth's carbon and heat exchange cycles.) Also, I see zero relevance between being "left" and "right". Personally, I think these labels are doing huge damage, pretty much stopping all thinking.
- Cthulhu_ 7y agoI dunno, biological self-determination+sex could imply they'd want to talk about accepting pedophilia. Which is probably as heretical or taboo a subject as you could get, I'm not even comfortable mentioning it, even if I'm strongly opposed.
- tempsy 7y agoI think the whole idea is a place to discuss ideas that are “heretical” by modern left wing “cancel culture” standards.
- Chris2048 7y agoI think the opposite is True - none of these topics trigger cancel culture, and I can't see anything that protects speakers anyway.
- tempsy 7y agoHow so? Drag culture and sex/gender are among the most triggering of topics.
- pjc50 7y agoWhat do you mean by "triggering" here?
- tempsy 7y ago"Triggering" is the outrage caused by voicing an unpopular opinion, usually one that is counter to modern socially liberal views.
- Chris2048 7y agoTrue, but "sex" is very unspecific, it's not really a topic. And I doubt a talk on "drag culture" will be titled "why drag culture is is bad/wrong".
- SideburnsOfDoom 7y ago> “heretical” by modern left wing “cancel culture” standards. So it will be the usual modern alt-right people pushing the same bad old ideas in new disguises then.
- noobermin 7y agoMoreover, the right wing have podcasts, conferences, etc.