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Ah yes, democratic representation and sovereignty. Entirely unthinkable.

• baybal2 7y ago
  Imagine yourself a party bureaucrat. Would you do a 100% career ending move? That's why I point to the crisis being irresolvable. No way out of this for both sides.
  • grecy 7y ago
    The king of Botswana did it to himself. (and was then democratically elected as the president) The General in Nigeria who overthrew the President in a Coup then handed power over to a new democratically elected President a year later. Yes. Good, honest upstanding men (and women) will destroy their own position and power when it's the right thing to to. The hard part is finding the Good and honest ones, and I suspect they are very few are far between in the Chinese leadership.
    • baybal2 7y ago
      I'm not even talking about leaders on the level politburo, there is no chance they will move. People who reach this level are pretty much robots after 40+ year careers in the party. People on level municipalities, and provinces may show some rare signs of common sense from time to time, but them moment any of them (yes, even a provincial governor) will rise a hand, they will instantly be politically terminated. And you have a system where tops are incapable of integrating any input for plainly neurological-biological reasons, and anybody with a shade of influence on them is super duper afraid of getting politically railroaded by both higher ups, and peers contending for promotion. This is modern China for you.
  • uoaei 7y ago
    Such is the distinction between what is good in a utilitarian sense and what is good in an ethical sense. Blind and dogmatic utilitarianism says "it's in the politician's best interest to suppress the citizenry". Ethics says "it's in the people's interest for the politician to be nice to them".