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At first I was excited because the Sonos software stack frustrates me, but looking at source it just hits api.sonos.com. Would love to control the speakers dire

by xfitm3 7y ago

At first I was excited because the Sonos software stack frustrates me, but looking at source it just hits api.sonos.com. Would love to control the speakers directly on my LAN.

bluejekyll 7y ago
Do you know if the speakers are discoverable locally, and what protocol they use for that? I know Apple is all mDNS (for AirPlay), I don’t know anything about Sonos though.
- mcginleyr1 7y ago
  They use SOAP on UDP. I played with it a while back using Sonex https://github.com/harmon25/sonex https://github.com/harmon25/sonex Have a fork to make some things work under my username.
- enigmo 7y ago
  Sonos is (or was) mostly UPnP with some extensions... so for discovery they used SSDP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Proto.... I messed around with their stack and internals for a while about ten years ago... some remnants remain https://github.com/NathanHowell/Sonority/tree/master/ https://github.com/NathanHowell/Sonority/tree/master/ https://github.com/NathanHowell/Sonority/tree/core/ https://github.com/NathanHowell/Sonority/tree/core/ https://github.com/NathanHowell/upd2 https://github.com/NathanHowell/upd2
- baroffoos 7y ago
  Bluetooth.
texs0987 7y ago
Have you tried: https://github.com/SoCo/SoCo https://github.com/SoCo/SoCo Used it a bit seems to work most of the time
echelon 7y ago
Their API used to allow this. It was all open protocols. Are they starting to lock it down through API updates? If so, that's terribly unfortunate and I'll have to rethink my audio setup and future purchases.
- octorian 7y ago
  Open, unencrypted, easy to reverse engineer with a packet sniffer. I hope it stays that way, because I built a project[1] that kinda depends on it. Should that change, my project suddenly requires a fair amount of annoying and complicated work. [1] http://hecgeek.blogspot.com/2017/10/wall-o-matic-interface-1.html http://hecgeek.blogspot.com/2017/10/wall-o-matic-interface-1...

by xfitm3 7y ago

At first I was excited because the Sonos software stack frustrates me, but looking at source it just hits api.sonos.com. Would love to control the speakers directly on my LAN.

bluejekyll 7y ago

Do you know if the speakers are discoverable locally, and what protocol they use for that? I know Apple is all mDNS (for AirPlay), I don’t know anything about Sonos though.

mcginleyr1 7y ago
They use SOAP on UDP. I played with it a while back using Sonex https://github.com/harmon25/sonex https://github.com/harmon25/sonex Have a fork to make some things work under my username.
enigmo 7y ago
Sonos is (or was) mostly UPnP with some extensions... so for discovery they used SSDP https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Protocol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Service_Discovery_Proto.... I messed around with their stack and internals for a while about ten years ago... some remnants remain https://github.com/NathanHowell/Sonority/tree/master/ https://github.com/NathanHowell/Sonority/tree/master/ https://github.com/NathanHowell/Sonority/tree/core/ https://github.com/NathanHowell/Sonority/tree/core/ https://github.com/NathanHowell/upd2 https://github.com/NathanHowell/upd2
baroffoos 7y ago
Bluetooth.

texs0987 7y ago

Have you tried: https://github.com/SoCo/SoCo https://github.com/SoCo/SoCo Used it a bit seems to work most of the time

echelon 7y ago

Their API used to allow this. It was all open protocols. Are they starting to lock it down through API updates? If so, that's terribly unfortunate and I'll have to rethink my audio setup and future purchases.

octorian 7y ago
Open, unencrypted, easy to reverse engineer with a packet sniffer. I hope it stays that way, because I built a project[1] that kinda depends on it. Should that change, my project suddenly requires a fair amount of annoying and complicated work. [1] http://hecgeek.blogspot.com/2017/10/wall-o-matic-interface-1.html http://hecgeek.blogspot.com/2017/10/wall-o-matic-interface-1...