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I don't care. I want BREXIT now, since the british voted for it. All these delays are poison for democracy. Hard brexit yesterday. And if the pro EU people

I don't care. I want BREXIT now, since the british voted for it. All these delays are poison for democracy. Hard brexit yesterday. And if the pro EU people want to join again, they can apply in 5 years if they manage to find a majority. And now, let the downvotes come.

Lendal 7y ago
What you're asking for is Brexit by fiat, the opposite of democracy. The reason it hasn't happened yet is precisely because of democracy. People can't agree. Everyone wants it their way, but everyone can't have their way. Someone must volunteer to be the loser. If you had Brexit by fiat, it would have happened already.
walshemj 7y ago
Read the words on the paper it was an advisory vote not a binding one.
ineedasername 7y ago
People voted for Brexit, sure, but two problems come to mind when trying to use that fact as support for crashing out of the UK: 1) People did not, when voting, stipulate what sort or Brexit they wanted, but they were promised an orderly exit with a great deal that would preserve the benefits of EU membership. And in polls since then, they have overwhelmingly said they do not want no-deal. This places the democratic path firmly on the side of "let's get a deal done the right way." Though with no majority agreeing on "the right way" is a problem, it's one for democratic compromise to solve, and that can take time. 2) Appealing to the 2016 will of the people ignores the fact that democracies don't vote one and never ever ever touch on the same topic again. In fact there are votes every few years so that, if people change their minds, that can be reflected in government. Personally I think going back on Brexit at this point would be bad for the UK as a society, if not so much as an economy, but there's nothing undemocratic about people saying, "I made a choice, I've since learned a little more about it and don't like it anymore. Let's vote to see if enough people feel the same way."
- mlang23 7y ago
  Oh, thats so british. "we want brexit, but we want a deal with all the benefits". Another reason to want a hard brexit yesterday. The british play this pick and choose game since they joined the EU. When push comes to shove, they end up siding the the US, not even caring about EU policy. And the EUR was also never really interesting to these classy brits. Sorry, but its time to end this, fast.

Lendal 7y ago

What you're asking for is Brexit by fiat, the opposite of democracy. The reason it hasn't happened yet is precisely because of democracy. People can't agree. Everyone wants it their way, but everyone can't have their way. Someone must volunteer to be the loser. If you had Brexit by fiat, it would have happened already.

walshemj 7y ago

Read the words on the paper it was an advisory vote not a binding one.

ineedasername 7y ago

People voted for Brexit, sure, but two problems come to mind when trying to use that fact as support for crashing out of the UK: 1) People did not, when voting, stipulate what sort or Brexit they wanted, but they were promised an orderly exit with a great deal that would preserve the benefits of EU membership. And in polls since then, they have overwhelmingly said they do not want no-deal. This places the democratic path firmly on the side of "let's get a deal done the right way." Though with no majority agreeing on "the right way" is a problem, it's one for democratic compromise to solve, and that can take time. 2) Appealing to the 2016 will of the people ignores the fact that democracies don't vote one and never ever ever touch on the same topic again. In fact there are votes every few years so that, if people change their minds, that can be reflected in government. Personally I think going back on Brexit at this point would be bad for the UK as a society, if not so much as an economy, but there's nothing undemocratic about people saying, "I made a choice, I've since learned a little more about it and don't like it anymore. Let's vote to see if enough people feel the same way."

mlang23 7y ago
Oh, thats so british. "we want brexit, but we want a deal with all the benefits". Another reason to want a hard brexit yesterday. The british play this pick and choose game since they joined the EU. When push comes to shove, they end up siding the the US, not even caring about EU policy. And the EUR was also never really interesting to these classy brits. Sorry, but its time to end this, fast.