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Interesting how challenging science is framed as "denial" rather than "questioning".

Beltiras 7y ago
Many of the signatories are not climate scientists. Lead signatory is an engineer that worked for oil and gas his entire life.
- alecmg 7y ago
  I think that is actually a plus. Other scientists can see implications of zero-carbon laws to different aspects of economy and society.
  - Beltiras 7y ago
    I don't think economy or society will benefit in the long run from receding coastlines. The Greenland glacier is melting. From the bottom.
- airbreather 7y ago
  Often the best questions come from someone outside the field. Just because someone has a degree in a certain subject does not make them the only one that can ask questions about that subject. This is called "White coat syndrome".
  - Beltiras 7y ago
    They are however most often answered by someone within the field. These folks are saying they have an answer, not a question.
  - colinb 7y ago
    "often" is a weasel word here. How about "sometimes"? Sometimes good questions come from outside a field. Nevertheless, when I'm suffering from a serious medical condition, I prefer to see a medical doctor. When my central heating packs up, I call a licensed gas-fitter. Argument from authority seems like a bad plan. But arguing against someone _because_ they have authority seems worse.
    - airbreather 7y ago
      However, we are not talking about treatment or repairs, so poor if not irrelevant comparisons. It is recognised that the most valuable person/s in review panels are the rank outsiders that ask the questions that are considered already answered or too outlandish to consider. There are a number of studies I can't be arsed to dig up, however Feynman and the challenger investigation is one slightly oblique example. Outsiders do not have the fear of pointing at the elephant in the room.
  - Oletros 7y ago
    They are not asking questions, they are saying that all the other scientists are wrong

Many of the signatories are not climate scientists. Lead signatory is an engineer that worked for oil and gas his entire life.

alecmg 7y ago
I think that is actually a plus. Other scientists can see implications of zero-carbon laws to different aspects of economy and society.
- Beltiras 7y ago
  I don't think economy or society will benefit in the long run from receding coastlines. The Greenland glacier is melting. From the bottom.
airbreather 7y ago
Often the best questions come from someone outside the field. Just because someone has a degree in a certain subject does not make them the only one that can ask questions about that subject. This is called "White coat syndrome".
- Beltiras 7y ago
  They are however most often answered by someone within the field. These folks are saying they have an answer, not a question.
- colinb 7y ago
  "often" is a weasel word here. How about "sometimes"? Sometimes good questions come from outside a field. Nevertheless, when I'm suffering from a serious medical condition, I prefer to see a medical doctor. When my central heating packs up, I call a licensed gas-fitter. Argument from authority seems like a bad plan. But arguing against someone _because_ they have authority seems worse.
  - airbreather 7y ago
    However, we are not talking about treatment or repairs, so poor if not irrelevant comparisons. It is recognised that the most valuable person/s in review panels are the rank outsiders that ask the questions that are considered already answered or too outlandish to consider. There are a number of studies I can't be arsed to dig up, however Feynman and the challenger investigation is one slightly oblique example. Outsiders do not have the fear of pointing at the elephant in the room.
- Oletros 7y ago
  They are not asking questions, they are saying that all the other scientists are wrong