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The parent's comment was overly simplistic but yours is even more so. What you describe works if companies struggle to hire people and need to compete with eac

by simias 7y ago

The parent's comment was overly simplistic but yours is even more so. What you describe works if companies struggle to hire people and need to compete with each-other for workforce. Nowadays in many sectors throughout the world (and often for less educated workforce) it's the other way around: there are more people looking for a job than there are vacancies. Clearly in this situation it works the other way around: the worker who's ready to work longer for cheaper will be hired over the others. Then it's a race to the bottom.

self_awareness 7y ago
Of course the comment was simplistic. How much information on such complicated topic can be stuffed into a few sentences? The point of the comment was to point out the parent was wrong, and provide an example where it's wrong, not to describe how the world works.
- simias 7y ago
  And I was merely providing an example where your comment was wrong. Nuance is important if we want to have a constructive political discussion. Beyond that, I often feel like most people on HN are hugely privileged when it comes to job hunting and working conditions and it shows in the discussions. It's easy to lose track of the difficulties the majority of people experience when it comes to finding a job when you have half a dozen recruiters fighting over how much money they're going to throw at your face at any given moment. "I wish those recruiters would stop spamming my inbox" is not a problem the average human being has ever (and probably will ever) experience.
  - self_awareness 7y ago
    I don't think recruiters work the way you've described. I also don't think a sane person would like to stop receiving messages from recruiters. I'm also not sure I understand what you have in mind when you write "privilege".
    - simias 7y ago
      >I don't think recruiters work the way you've described. Why not? >I also don't think a sane person would like to stop receiving messages from recruiters. If you're not looking for a new job it's a useless distraction. Emails aren't too bad, phone calls are more annoying. >I'm also not sure I understand what you have in mind when you write "privilege". Then try re-reading my comment with a less adversarial attitude, I think it's fairly transparent. You seem more interested in winning the argument than engaging in constructive discussion, but maybe it's just one of these situations where the text medium fails to convey enough nuance and context cues to judge a person's intentions.

by simias 7y ago

self_awareness 7y ago

Of course the comment was simplistic. How much information on such complicated topic can be stuffed into a few sentences? The point of the comment was to point out the parent was wrong, and provide an example where it's wrong, not to describe how the world works.

simias 7y ago
And I was merely providing an example where your comment was wrong. Nuance is important if we want to have a constructive political discussion. Beyond that, I often feel like most people on HN are hugely privileged when it comes to job hunting and working conditions and it shows in the discussions. It's easy to lose track of the difficulties the majority of people experience when it comes to finding a job when you have half a dozen recruiters fighting over how much money they're going to throw at your face at any given moment. "I wish those recruiters would stop spamming my inbox" is not a problem the average human being has ever (and probably will ever) experience.
- self_awareness 7y ago
  I don't think recruiters work the way you've described. I also don't think a sane person would like to stop receiving messages from recruiters. I'm also not sure I understand what you have in mind when you write "privilege".
  - simias 7y ago
    >I don't think recruiters work the way you've described. Why not? >I also don't think a sane person would like to stop receiving messages from recruiters. If you're not looking for a new job it's a useless distraction. Emails aren't too bad, phone calls are more annoying. >I'm also not sure I understand what you have in mind when you write "privilege". Then try re-reading my comment with a less adversarial attitude, I think it's fairly transparent. You seem more interested in winning the argument than engaging in constructive discussion, but maybe it's just one of these situations where the text medium fails to convey enough nuance and context cues to judge a person's intentions.