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Speaking of right to repair, As anyone seen the price of hard drives lately? External drives are MUCH cheaper (half price in some cases), which seems backwards

Speaking of right to repair, As anyone seen the price of hard drives lately? External drives are MUCH cheaper (half price in some cases), which seems backwards when the external drive also comes with an enclosure, power supply and cables. Leading to the term 'Shucking', where people buy external drives just for the drive inside only to discard the rest.

lotsofpulp 7y ago
Do you have an example of the same quality hard drive being cheaper as an external hard drive? I find that hard to believe, and would presume inferior hard drives are being sold in external cases.
- velox_io 7y ago
  Sure, as of right now:- WD 10TB Elements Desktop External Hard Drive £184.26 (the 12TB version has been as low as £180) https://www.amazon.co.uk/WD-Elements-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B07G364YHX/ https://www.amazon.co.uk/WD-Elements-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B... In the comments from the above (you'll find similar in other comments, and on Reddit & YouTube). The Harddrive inside is a WD100EMAZ (WD Red 10TB), which currently retails for £318.68 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-10TB-3-5-SATA-5400rpm/dp/B0719498XY https://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-10TB-3-5-SATA-5400rpm/dp/B07194... It's even running the same firmware. It makes no sense, the only logic I see is that customers are willing to pay more for the 'enhanced features'. If you look into this, you'll find no manufacture states the read and write speeds of their USB drives, making it a little harder to compare, so there is a little luck of the draw in what you actually get. Seagate are similar: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/8thr34/seagate_backup_plus_hub_10tb_has_a_barracuda_pro/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/8thr34/seagate...
  - lotsofpulp 7y ago
    Your first amazon link is for a product sold by Amazon.com and the second link (the hard drive itself) is being sold by a different merchant, so they are not comparable as the third party sellers have weird pricing for various reasons.
    - velox_io 7y ago
      That's strange, Take Newegg (both instock):- WD My Book 10TB USB 3.0 External - $185.99 (free shipping) https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822234346 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822234346 WD Red 10TB NAS Hard Disk Drive $283.98 (with $3.99 shipping) https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822231546 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822231546 So it's still ~$100 cheaper. Like I said before, this isn't the only example.
      - lotsofpulp 7y ago
        That's interesting, what a ridiculous way to price discriminate. I also found this conversation while trying to find out kind of HDD it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/8ghb0o/wd_mybook_10tb_shucking/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/8ghb0o/wd_mybo...

lotsofpulp 7y ago

Do you have an example of the same quality hard drive being cheaper as an external hard drive? I find that hard to believe, and would presume inferior hard drives are being sold in external cases.

velox_io 7y ago
Sure, as of right now:- WD 10TB Elements Desktop External Hard Drive £184.26 (the 12TB version has been as low as £180) https://www.amazon.co.uk/WD-Elements-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B07G364YHX/ https://www.amazon.co.uk/WD-Elements-Desktop-Hard-Drive/dp/B... In the comments from the above (you'll find similar in other comments, and on Reddit & YouTube). The Harddrive inside is a WD100EMAZ (WD Red 10TB), which currently retails for £318.68 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-10TB-3-5-SATA-5400rpm/dp/B0719498XY https://www.amazon.co.uk/Red-10TB-3-5-SATA-5400rpm/dp/B07194... It's even running the same firmware. It makes no sense, the only logic I see is that customers are willing to pay more for the 'enhanced features'. If you look into this, you'll find no manufacture states the read and write speeds of their USB drives, making it a little harder to compare, so there is a little luck of the draw in what you actually get. Seagate are similar: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/8thr34/seagate_backup_plus_hub_10tb_has_a_barracuda_pro/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/8thr34/seagate...
- lotsofpulp 7y ago
  Your first amazon link is for a product sold by Amazon.com and the second link (the hard drive itself) is being sold by a different merchant, so they are not comparable as the third party sellers have weird pricing for various reasons.
  - velox_io 7y ago
    That's strange, Take Newegg (both instock):- WD My Book 10TB USB 3.0 External - $185.99 (free shipping) https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822234346 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822234346 WD Red 10TB NAS Hard Disk Drive $283.98 (with $3.99 shipping) https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822231546 https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16822231546 So it's still ~$100 cheaper. Like I said before, this isn't the only example.
    - lotsofpulp 7y ago
      That's interesting, what a ridiculous way to price discriminate. I also found this conversation while trying to find out kind of HDD it is: https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/8ghb0o/wd_mybook_10tb_shucking/ https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/8ghb0o/wd_mybo...