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> the meat industry is engaged in an active disinformation campaign Come on man: citations needed. From where I am sitting, the "meat industry" is about as th

> the meat industry is engaged in an active disinformation campaign Come on man: citations needed. From where I am sitting, the "meat industry" is about as threatened by vegetarians as the brussel sprouts industry is by mcdonalds. Keto diets are presently quite popular and don't seem to do people much harm at least.

cageface 7y ago
Major fast food chains are rolling out plant based burgers, backed by massive marketing campaigns. You bet the meat industry is threatened by this. If you’re really interested in learning more about this read the book Meatanomics: https://meatonomics.com/ https://meatonomics.com/ The typical keto diet is an improvement over the standard American diet loaded with junk but that doesn’t mean there aren’t other dietary options with better long term results and much smaller environmental impact.
- scottlocklin 7y ago
  That isn't really much of a citation; it's an assertion, and the thing you link me to is ... not a citation either: it's some kind of vegetarian propaganda. I don't care about factory farming or the "personal dignity" of cows; I just want to know why you think there is a "meat industry" engaged in disinformation programs. From the looks of this link, you may be projecting. FWIIW I barely eat red meat when I'm in America; mostly game meats. No horse in this race, but if you know something I don't about nefarious meat conspiracies, you should link people to it.
  - cageface 7y ago
    There are so many industry funded studies with conclusions contrary to mainstream wisdom I hardly know where to start. This article lists several, just as an example: https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/marta-zaraska-big-meat-article-1.2669374 https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/marta-zaraska-big-meat-a... Also the statement that you don’t care about factory farming is a pretty appalling disregard for the suffering of intelligent animals.
    - scottlocklin 7y ago
      It's an interesting article if true, though written by an anti-meat activist[1], which is even less useful than nutrition studies sponsored by the pork board. Feel free to be appalled; most normal people don't care about the "suffering of cows" either. [1] Marta Zaraska, author of Meathooked: The History and Science of Our 2.5-Million-Year Obsession with Meat.
      - cageface 7y ago
        Feel free to be appalled; most normal people don't care about the "suffering of cows" either. It's sad but true - our species has a lot of evolving to do still.

cageface 7y ago

Major fast food chains are rolling out plant based burgers, backed by massive marketing campaigns. You bet the meat industry is threatened by this. If you’re really interested in learning more about this read the book Meatanomics: https://meatonomics.com/ https://meatonomics.com/ The typical keto diet is an improvement over the standard American diet loaded with junk but that doesn’t mean there aren’t other dietary options with better long term results and much smaller environmental impact.

scottlocklin 7y ago
That isn't really much of a citation; it's an assertion, and the thing you link me to is ... not a citation either: it's some kind of vegetarian propaganda. I don't care about factory farming or the "personal dignity" of cows; I just want to know why you think there is a "meat industry" engaged in disinformation programs. From the looks of this link, you may be projecting. FWIIW I barely eat red meat when I'm in America; mostly game meats. No horse in this race, but if you know something I don't about nefarious meat conspiracies, you should link people to it.
- cageface 7y ago
  There are so many industry funded studies with conclusions contrary to mainstream wisdom I hardly know where to start. This article lists several, just as an example: https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/marta-zaraska-big-meat-article-1.2669374 https://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/marta-zaraska-big-meat-a... Also the statement that you don’t care about factory farming is a pretty appalling disregard for the suffering of intelligent animals.
  - scottlocklin 7y ago
    It's an interesting article if true, though written by an anti-meat activist[1], which is even less useful than nutrition studies sponsored by the pork board. Feel free to be appalled; most normal people don't care about the "suffering of cows" either. [1] Marta Zaraska, author of Meathooked: The History and Science of Our 2.5-Million-Year Obsession with Meat.
    - cageface 7y ago
      Feel free to be appalled; most normal people don't care about the "suffering of cows" either. It's sad but true - our species has a lot of evolving to do still.