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> All higher life on this planet survives by eating another life form. Does it? What about vegetarian and vegans animals? (including some humans) > Animal rig
by sparrc 7y ago
> All higher life on this planet survives by eating another life form.
Does it? What about vegetarian and vegans animals? (including some humans)
> Animal rights groups tend to elevate my food to having similar rights as humans.
It's more accurate to say that animal rights groups believe that the lives of animals are more important than your taste buds.
- geggam 7y agoAre you saying plant life isnt life ? https://www.the-scientist.com/features/plant-talk-38209 https://www.the-scientist.com/features/plant-talk-38209 >It's more accurate to say that animal rights groups believe that the lives of animals are more important than your taste buds. My belief is I am healthier eating animals. Burden is on you to prove me wrong.
- sparrc 7y agoThere are 3 orders of living things: plants, funghi, and animals. Animal rights is concerned with all animals, not with all living things. Every major dietician association says the same thing about veg diets, that they are healthy for all stages of life, including pregnancy, infancy (excepting breastmilk of course), and early childhood. There's no burden on me to change your behavior, you can do whatever you want.
- geggam 7y ago>There's no burden on me to change your behavior, you can do whatever you want. agreed I will add that the food chain should remain natural. When I die I would get eaten except humans today pump their old body full of toxins and put it inside a coffin inside a concrete box.... This breaks the natural cycle. Eat or be eaten ;)
- sparrc 7y agoThe food chain is not a scientific concept, it's useful for teaching children and for Disney movies but it's probably time for you to evolve your reasoning.
- geggam 7y agoIts also useful for communicating to people on the internet. You seem to grasp the concept so its a success.
- sparrc 7y agoI grasp the concept in the sense that I grasp that it is a fallacy put forward by someone who either hasn't fully thought through the concept, or is being intellectually dishonest.
- remarkEon 7y ago>excepting breastmilk of course Seems to be a ... rather glaring exception.
- sparrc 7y agohow? vegans believe using animal products is wrong because there is no possible way to get consent from the animals. Breastmilk has 100% consent from the mother providing the milk.
- geggam 7y agoCan you find a vegan who can show proof animals are capable of giving consent after giving the situation considerable thought ? Survival instinct is not allowed since you wont allow humans survival instinct to eat everything and anything to be part of the situation.
- sparrc 7y agoI said the opposite, animals are _not_ able to give consent. If you misspoke I don't really know what to say, you think that it's possible for a cow to give a human consent to take their child and milk? And stop kidding yourself about this being about some sort of primal "survival instinct". We live in a modern and comfortable society where a Canadian can buy cheap tropical fruits in January.
- remarkEon 7y ago>We live in a modern and comfortable society A good way to ensure that we never survive if this changes is to insist that animals are required to give "consent", whatever that means.
- sparrc 7y agoEating meat if your survival depends on it (not that that's ever likely to happen) is fully acceptable in the defintion of veganism. See https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism https://www.vegansociety.com/go-vegan/definition-veganism