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As is the answer with almost anything in the US, the answer is: "There are some who stand to make money from it at the expense of others." US is fundamentally
by NTDF9 7y ago
As is the answer with almost anything in the US, the answer is: "There are some who stand to make money from it at the expense of others."
US is fundamentally different from most other countries. In most countries, govt designs (or tries to design) laws and systems for the public good. Not so in the US.
- bonoboTP 7y ago> US is fundamentally different from most other countries. In most countries, govt designs (or tries to design) laws and systems for the public good. Not so in the US. I think this is overly simplistic. There's plenty of corruption in many European countries as well, it's just in a different form. It seems also deeply cultural. What would count as greedy and offputting behavior here, is seen as laudable and ambitious in the US. People are supposed to be pushing for more and more money and they are considered successful to the extent they can make it. This results in good and bad things alike. Most of the other parts of the world suffer from some form of the tall poppy syndrome: if you want to be socially accepted, you aren't supposed to be deviating too much from those around you. Meaning that entrepreneurship is much smaller and also that many things are just not considered to be for sale in good taste (private prisons, expensive private schools, expensive hospitals).
- NTDF9 7y ago> I think this is overly simplistic. There's plenty of corruption in many European countries as well, it's just in a different form. Not denying corruption doesn't exist in other countries, including EU. However, if you look at it closely from a 3rd person perspective, you'll see that the laws in US are designed to snatch rights away from citizens vs laws in most other countries are designed to give rights to its citizens. One may ask where it comes from? It seems comes from a place of profit for a lobby. No payment for student athletes? NCAA and others suck in value of labor of young kids by denying right to earn money for their labor No universal healthcare or clean competition in healthcare? Private insurance and healthcare institutions suck in value of humans by denying right to get basic healthcare as a service. No cheap education? Lenders racketing on student's worth by denying students access to low cost capitalistic education. No rights for private prisoners? Immigrants? Civil forfeiture? Every thing is designed as a system to take away rights for the benefit of a few. The US govt and private industry are a nexus of money making for large lobbying groups. This won't fly in another non-corrupt democracy, let alone in EU. > It seems also deeply cultural. What would count as greedy and offputting behavior here, is seen as laudable and ambitious in the US Yep, there's another way of looking at the fundamental difference. The govt exists to make money for a few at the expense of others.
- bonoboTP 7y agoPart of the reason could be that the stakes are just much higher in a single country of the size of the US and the lobbying takes less effort. Even with the EU, Europe is just much more fragmented and there's less chance for some business oligarch or parasite corporation to have good relations with all the different governments across all ~50 countries of Europe, each with their own slightly different systems.
- NTDF9 7y agoBut even then, you would think lobbying inside Germany would be crazy. But it isn't. Why? Because people (rich people included) see society as something to be shared. Not something to be taken from others by hook or crook. US used to be more sharing, like under FDR. But it is more and more like flawed democracies.
- bonoboTP 7y agoArguably the car industry gets away with a lot in Germany. But that lobbying isn't as open and overt as in the US for sure.