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It would help to just remove the current moderators that are super pedantic about building a "knowledge base", when actually they just like exercising their pow

It would help to just remove the current moderators that are super pedantic about building a "knowledge base", when actually they just like exercising their power. I've also noticed a recent trend that moderators on SO are also now deleting questions to stop any objections to the close votes from lower-ranked users, it's ridiculous.

LeoNatan25 7y ago
Questions are rarely deleted by moderators. The community, through voting, is very often the one to delete through voting directly, or through severe downvoting, in which case a bot removes bad questions. And if you have higher score, you can still see these deleted questions and answers.
- Avamander 7y ago
  Moderators are part of the community that can vote and high-ranked people that vote have access to mod tools - they're basically moderators - just without the diamond. I can see quite a lot, not everything though, and I don't want to grind reputation asking inane questions to get access to more, to keep my detailed questions from being closed without explanation and then deleted. These kafkaesque trials are ridiculous and obnoxious.
  - LeoNatan25 7y ago
    > Moderators are part of the community that can vote and high-ranked people that vote have access to mod tools - they're basically moderators - just without the diamond. Yes, I know, which puts the entire outcry here (from likely low-score users) in a very comical light. "Ban mods"—what they really are asking for is "ban high-score users who do not like my low-quality questions".
    - Avamander 7y ago
      > "ban high-score users who do not like my low-quality questions" Thanks for telling me you're part of the problem. You're not nearly as infallible in your judgement about what's a "bad question", it's plain and simple hubris most high-ranks have. The system should not allow such consolidation of power, there's a very good reason most democratic countries have separated the three powers.
      - LeoNatan25 7y ago
        I'm not sure what "power" you think I have. I rarely vote to close questions. But I do flag, and do down-vote. Isn't that as democratic as it gets?
        Avamander 7y ago
        > Isn't that as democratic as it gets? Why should you be able to flag for close, downvote and get to delete all at once? It's basically all the power there is, especially bad if you own a tag badge. We have enough people to separate those tasks, it'd definitely reduce one person's ability to do harm.
        LeoNatan25 7y ago
        Everyone is able to flag for close, delete or downvote (above a very small point requirement—125, I thing). I cannot delete questions or answers on any whim. I can vote to to delete after a certain threshold of low-score passes. I don't see what is so problematic with this, as any user with a little persistence can reach this goal.
        Avamander 7y ago
        How is "persistence" the correct characteristic based on which to select who gets to moderate? I'm also well aware of the thresholds, I don't think one user should just have only one integer value based on which one gets all the privileges.
- GordonS 7y ago
  Not technically deleted perhaps, but flagging a unique and/or relevant question as a duplicate or not relevant, is guaranteed to make that question effectively invisible.

LeoNatan25 7y ago

Questions are rarely deleted by moderators. The community, through voting, is very often the one to delete through voting directly, or through severe downvoting, in which case a bot removes bad questions. And if you have higher score, you can still see these deleted questions and answers.

Avamander 7y ago
Moderators are part of the community that can vote and high-ranked people that vote have access to mod tools - they're basically moderators - just without the diamond. I can see quite a lot, not everything though, and I don't want to grind reputation asking inane questions to get access to more, to keep my detailed questions from being closed without explanation and then deleted. These kafkaesque trials are ridiculous and obnoxious.
- LeoNatan25 7y ago
  > Moderators are part of the community that can vote and high-ranked people that vote have access to mod tools - they're basically moderators - just without the diamond. Yes, I know, which puts the entire outcry here (from likely low-score users) in a very comical light. "Ban mods"—what they really are asking for is "ban high-score users who do not like my low-quality questions".
  - Avamander 7y ago
    > "ban high-score users who do not like my low-quality questions" Thanks for telling me you're part of the problem. You're not nearly as infallible in your judgement about what's a "bad question", it's plain and simple hubris most high-ranks have. The system should not allow such consolidation of power, there's a very good reason most democratic countries have separated the three powers.
    - LeoNatan25 7y ago
      I'm not sure what "power" you think I have. I rarely vote to close questions. But I do flag, and do down-vote. Isn't that as democratic as it gets?
      - Avamander 7y ago
        > Isn't that as democratic as it gets? Why should you be able to flag for close, downvote and get to delete all at once? It's basically all the power there is, especially bad if you own a tag badge. We have enough people to separate those tasks, it'd definitely reduce one person's ability to do harm.
        LeoNatan25 7y ago
        Everyone is able to flag for close, delete or downvote (above a very small point requirement—125, I thing). I cannot delete questions or answers on any whim. I can vote to to delete after a certain threshold of low-score passes. I don't see what is so problematic with this, as any user with a little persistence can reach this goal.
        Avamander 7y ago
        How is "persistence" the correct characteristic based on which to select who gets to moderate? I'm also well aware of the thresholds, I don't think one user should just have only one integer value based on which one gets all the privileges.
GordonS 7y ago
Not technically deleted perhaps, but flagging a unique and/or relevant question as a duplicate or not relevant, is guaranteed to make that question effectively invisible.