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> He actively made women feel unwelcome in the workplace and behaved unprofessionally over and over again. How do you know this? How do you know that he delibe

by verroq 7y ago

> He actively made women feel unwelcome in the workplace and behaved unprofessionally over and over again. How do you know this? How do you know that he deliberately tries to make women uncomfortable? I don't think any women is comfortable near a fat, bearded virgin that eats things off his foot, but to accuse him of deliberately making women uncomfortable implies that he knows some of his actions are off limits and he's deliberately crossing the line. You're just attributing malice when there's a simple answer - he's socially awkward, he doesn't know what the limits are.

minitech 7y ago
> How do you know that he deliberately tries to make women uncomfortable? He doesn’t do it deliberately (probably). The accusations are only that he does it. > I don't think any women is comfortable near a fat, bearded virgin that eats things off his foot None of the things you just listed were part of the reasons they gave. > but to accuse him of deliberately making women uncomfortable Again – deliberate not necessary for this to be a bad thing. In case you haven’t seen it and/or for your browsing convenience, here’s a link to the main set of actual issues in question: https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88 https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallman-appendi... (the fact that I’m linking this doesn’t mean I agree with every word of it or take its truth as a given, by the way – just pointing out that you’re arguing against a non-position)
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danillonunes 7y ago
Ignorance is a bad excuse for undesired behavior. That's why when it comes to legal terms, you can't claim you didn't knew something was illegal and get away with it. There are good reasons to defend (some of) Stallman's behavior, saying he don't know better is not one of them. If anything, it only makes me feel better about his current situation: Oh, the whole problem is that he didn't knew what he was doing? Well, he's learning a hell of a lesson now.

by verroq 7y ago

minitech 7y ago

> How do you know that he deliberately tries to make women uncomfortable? He doesn’t do it deliberately (probably). The accusations are only that he does it. > I don't think any women is comfortable near a fat, bearded virgin that eats things off his foot None of the things you just listed were part of the reasons they gave. > but to accuse him of deliberately making women uncomfortable Again – deliberate not necessary for this to be a bad thing. In case you haven’t seen it and/or for your browsing convenience, here’s a link to the main set of actual issues in question: https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88 https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallman-appendi... (the fact that I’m linking this doesn’t mean I agree with every word of it or take its truth as a given, by the way – just pointing out that you’re arguing against a non-position)

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danillonunes 7y ago

Ignorance is a bad excuse for undesired behavior. That's why when it comes to legal terms, you can't claim you didn't knew something was illegal and get away with it. There are good reasons to defend (some of) Stallman's behavior, saying he don't know better is not one of them. If anything, it only makes me feel better about his current situation: Oh, the whole problem is that he didn't knew what he was doing? Well, he's learning a hell of a lesson now.