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NYT used to be a really good paper though. I thought it was supposed to be this amazing intellectual, philosophical, humanistic thing spreading the courageous

NYT used to be a really good paper though. I thought it was supposed to be this amazing intellectual, philosophical, humanistic thing spreading the courageous word of the truth to unwoked. These people were supposed to be focusing on what we have in common and building common ground. Fundamentally, the formula of news in 2019 is like this (working on the this): Create a topic that ignores basic human need that everyone struggles with (housing, school, paying bills, romantic life, family, etc), then imply something less urgent needs priority - oh, and only an arbitrary subset of people have problems. We need to reshape society now, after all, everyone else has an easy life. Deprive people the validation of even having their needs recognized, even in the title itself. It insults men, women, young, old, of all situations equally :) Except if you use private mode.

golemotron 7y ago
Remember that news is a failing business. Most reporters and opinion writers are young (people with seniority who would have helped them with topics were laid off), they have massive student loan debt, they live in expensive metropolises (NYC in this case), are helped with rent by their parents, and are working at their first job. Those factors explain what you read on news sites and the distance between it and the concerns of 90% of the people in the US.
- no_opinions 7y ago
  Agreed. It's easy to see the level of desperation behind the words, they're provocateurs deliberately being disingenuous to get clicks, with a big smile of how they're duping everyone. They're very mean and hurtful and should apologize. If only they just admitted they are in huge debt, in an expensive city, and have lack experience in the world. Also, one more thing: > people with seniority who would have helped them with topics were laid off The management definitely betrayed the ones that made them. You can see it when you click some news articles and instead of a reporter, there is music and text scrolling made by some intern. Behind that, there were once proud people with jobs, and it has to be hell for them. Maybe I don't get it, but wasn't there a concept a ways back where they had standards, legitimacy (gravitas even) and were good quality? I guess the end of newspapers destroyed that. By the way, do you ever notice that news in UK, Australia seems a bit more sober and more mature than USA?

golemotron 7y ago

Remember that news is a failing business. Most reporters and opinion writers are young (people with seniority who would have helped them with topics were laid off), they have massive student loan debt, they live in expensive metropolises (NYC in this case), are helped with rent by their parents, and are working at their first job. Those factors explain what you read on news sites and the distance between it and the concerns of 90% of the people in the US.

no_opinions 7y ago
Agreed. It's easy to see the level of desperation behind the words, they're provocateurs deliberately being disingenuous to get clicks, with a big smile of how they're duping everyone. They're very mean and hurtful and should apologize. If only they just admitted they are in huge debt, in an expensive city, and have lack experience in the world. Also, one more thing: > people with seniority who would have helped them with topics were laid off The management definitely betrayed the ones that made them. You can see it when you click some news articles and instead of a reporter, there is music and text scrolling made by some intern. Behind that, there were once proud people with jobs, and it has to be hell for them. Maybe I don't get it, but wasn't there a concept a ways back where they had standards, legitimacy (gravitas even) and were good quality? I guess the end of newspapers destroyed that. By the way, do you ever notice that news in UK, Australia seems a bit more sober and more mature than USA?