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> In an effort to combat child pornography, providers like Facebook and Google automatically screen all photos for the presence of children and bare skin. The
by jMyles 7y ago
> In an effort to combat child pornography, providers like Facebook and Google automatically screen all photos for the presence of children and bare skin.
The presumption that childhood nudity needs to be screened in such a way is, itself, cringey and creepy and perhaps not without a hint of pedophilia.
> The algorithm detects the content whether it’s posted online or shared via a messaging app like WhatsApp.
OK, so what is "the algorithm?" Where can it be tested and audited?
And how do authorities acquire content send in a WhatsApp message? We just went over this yesterday, didn't we? wcathcart, any response to this?
- pjkundert 7y agoOur daughter had serious skin issues for years, and my wife and I shared numerous photographs of her. The idea of a pack of ... auditing my personal messages and photos to my wife is abhorrent. What we need is actual police doing actual police work, and actually judges putting actual pedophiles away for life. Not stalking normal people. But, I guess cowardice is alive and well - normals don’t shoot cops and judges in the face, so they’re easy targets to satisfy the “just do something” vote.
- sandworm101 7y agoAnd i was a competative swimmer. Nobody should fault my parents for posting images of me in a speedo, nor should i hesitate from posting them myself.
- PhasmaFelis 7y agoThey're not screening for kids and bare skin specifically. It's just a first heuristic to narrow down the pool of photos that conceivably might be child porn to something that human investigators can feasibly check. Per the article, 90% of the kids-and-bare-skin photos received are found to be totally innocuous once a human looks at them; no action is taken, and the photos and associated personal info are removed from police computers.
- LilBytes 7y agoExcept I'm not comfortable with my families photographs being screened by a third party that I don't know or have met, and this occurring explicitly without my knowledge. So to stop child pornography an all-seeing third party vets my families photographs even when shared privately via WhatsApp or similar? That's fucked.
- aaomidi 7y agoStop using Facebook. Like.....what do you expect? I'm not trying to blame you here but since you're on this website I assume you're more generally knowledgable about stuff happening. We've known about variations of this for so long.
- mosselman 7y agoThere is a difference between knowing that Facebook posts are screened and thinking that private, "end-to-end encrypted" messages are being screened (if true).
- themacks 7y ago> a human looks at them That's the problem most people have with this.
- partisan 7y ago
- jMyles 7y ago> The idea of a pack of ... auditing my personal messages What fills in the blank left by your ellipsis is one of the real points to be made in light of this story. We have to ask: who is fighting to have this job? In fact, who is this job tailor-made for in the first place? It seems to me that there is no (or, at most, very little) legitimate security interest being served by this process. But the opportunity created for someone who enjoys looking at these sorts of pictures - and doing it under cover of law - is absolutely obvious.
- bearcobra 7y agoThey are most likely talking about PhotoDNA (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhotoDNA https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhotoDNA)
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- aaomidi 7y agoAs someone who was raised a nudist this is actually hilarious and if I was a kid now my parents would've probably got a visit from the police. Ugh.
- stallmanite 7y agoThe land of the free.