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> Google's developer marketing Like Google did marketing for Dart and it picked up?

by geodel 7y ago

pjmlp 7y ago
Dart lost the support from Chrome team, it was rescued by AdWords team and Flutter is trying to make it relevant, but given Android team answers, it is clear that a power struggle is going on across teams. Giliad is also a personality from language research hardly known by UNIX fans.
- geodel 7y ago
  > it is clear that a power struggle is going on across teams. What this has got to do with Dart's popularity outside Google? > Giliad is also a personality from language research hardly known by UNIX fans. So unix fans did not let a superior language which was designed by real language researcher like Dart win?
  - pjmlp 7y ago
    Exactly, had Dart been accepted into other browsers, and TypeScript wouldn't probably matter nowadays. Just like WebAssembly wouldn't be a thing had PNaCL been accepted by others. For UNIX fans, whatever a former Bell Labs researcher states is gold, no criticism whatsoever allowed.
- sebe 7y ago
  Seems like time killed the adoption of Dart into Chrome. The chrome team had "been wanting to fix Webkit for a very long time, and the Blink fork made that possible" Moving Blink from ref counting to a traced GC was part of that fix, it also was required to be completed to allow the Dart VM to be added to chrome. What was supposed to take months took years and with no end in sight the Dart team announced that its VM would not ship with chrome. Lars announces the oilpan project Google I/O 2013. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2850&v=huawCRlo9H4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2850&v=huawCRlo9...
  - pjmlp 7y ago
    And now they moved on into https://www.toitware.com/ https://www.toitware.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPna6D21Eqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPna6D21Eqg
    - sebe 7y ago
      Thanks, have been looking for an update on toitware, had only found a 15 minute video in English by Kasper. With Dart going down the flutter path, work on the dart iot project, dartino stop. Thanks again, just starting to watch the video now.

> Google's developer marketing Like Google did marketing for Dart and it picked up?

by geodel 7y ago

> Google's developer marketing Like Google did marketing for Dart and it picked up?

Dart lost the support from Chrome team, it was rescued by AdWords team and Flutter is trying to make it relevant, but given Android team answers, it is clear that a power struggle is going on across teams. Giliad is also a personality from language research hardly known by UNIX fans.

geodel 7y ago
> it is clear that a power struggle is going on across teams. What this has got to do with Dart's popularity outside Google? > Giliad is also a personality from language research hardly known by UNIX fans. So unix fans did not let a superior language which was designed by real language researcher like Dart win?
- pjmlp 7y ago
  Exactly, had Dart been accepted into other browsers, and TypeScript wouldn't probably matter nowadays. Just like WebAssembly wouldn't be a thing had PNaCL been accepted by others. For UNIX fans, whatever a former Bell Labs researcher states is gold, no criticism whatsoever allowed.
sebe 7y ago
Seems like time killed the adoption of Dart into Chrome. The chrome team had "been wanting to fix Webkit for a very long time, and the Blink fork made that possible" Moving Blink from ref counting to a traced GC was part of that fix, it also was required to be completed to allow the Dart VM to be added to chrome. What was supposed to take months took years and with no end in sight the Dart team announced that its VM would not ship with chrome. Lars announces the oilpan project Google I/O 2013. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2850&v=huawCRlo9H4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2850&v=huawCRlo9...
- pjmlp 7y ago
  And now they moved on into https://www.toitware.com/ https://www.toitware.com/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPna6D21Eqg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPna6D21Eqg
  - sebe 7y ago
    Thanks, have been looking for an update on toitware, had only found a 15 minute video in English by Kasper. With Dart going down the flutter path, work on the dart iot project, dartino stop. Thanks again, just starting to watch the video now.