>Then they're not great engineers. That's fine at the beginning, but in a long run, they need to care or they'll cause issues. What kinds of issues do you thin

>Then they're not great engineers. That's fine at the beginning, but in a long run, they need to care or they'll cause issues. What kinds of issues do you think will happen? Isn't the whole point of having devops/sysadmins so software engineers don't have to spend valuable time setting up and maintaining infrastructure and tools? If the answer to that is no, then we've come full circle because software engineers maintaining infrastructure and tools are just devops.