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Have you ever used a Mac?

• vetinari 7y ago
  Mac App Store definitely requires Apple ID.
  • pndy 7y ago
    Of course but you can still - at least for now, install applications from disk images (.dmg) and toss .app containers into /Applications - that doesn't require Apple ID.
    • vetinari 7y ago
      Not all applications. For example, if I need Wireguard VPN client, I must install it from App Store. It is otherwise open-source app, but without the signature from App Store, it won't work.
  • filleduchaos 7y ago
    I've used the App Store like one whole time in my entire life and that was to upgrade Xcode once. Elsewhere you mention a VPN client requiring you to download it from the App Store - well take it up with the app developer then because I've used tons of VPN clients on Mac (currently using ExpressVPN in fact) and all were straight out of DMGs.
    • vetinari 7y ago
      Wireguard uses the new Network Extensions API, and that usage requries entitlement granted by Apple signature. There's no avoiding that. I've also used different VPNs that didn't require that - but they also didn't integrate so well as wg does. For Xcode, there is another way - it is downloadable from the developer pages.