>Communism's historic death toll is far from encouraging either. I do not dispute death tolls, but I do dispute the idea that you should argue using this point

>Communism's historic death toll is far from encouraging either. I do not dispute death tolls, but I do dispute the idea that you should argue using this point in favour of capitalism, which has similar consequences out of issues such as structural poverty and imperialism. >"oh, people just wouldn't be corrupt if I'm in charge." No serious academic Communist/Marxist/Socialist claims this. The fact you think that's what the claim is shows that you get more information about arguments for Communism from Internet memes and fora than you do from people who work with the topic. >Completely irrelevant. No it's not. Your point was that "it'll work my way" is fallacious logic. My retort was that this same logic is used in all normative social theory and indeed many other areas of human endeavour too.